8/17/09:Michael Vick Returns

" Mighty big time WP -- Of course Michael Vick belongs in the NFL he did his crime he did his time. Go on with life. The guy is not a murderer the guy hurt dogs herding dogs is bad he would to risen that four -- So now people are saying he can't go back and work with people who stabbed to. Punched -- up other people guys who beat up the -- of their children are happily playing in the NFL back down. Ten years ago this was an issue there was a story about how in 1998. One in five NFL players had been shot had been charged at least one serious crimes. There were NFL players -- arrests rape charges. 45 and it counts of domestic violence and they were all playing in the NFL. Because that at least they didn't hurt the puppies and that's what's that we we have a moral failing and our character -- become we as we become more more juvenile -- of people. Where we look at the babies in key. There's a gut -- is a lights out of his baby mama if you go well it should ask you for it. This is not a good sign. The stimulus rams selected Texas Christian university center Ryan Tucker in the fourth round then they'll draft. At the time -- is awaiting trial for an assault. The left the victim paralyzed and brain damaged. When asked about -- legal difficulties coach Dick per -- replied quote he can finish a fight that's a positive. Close club. Beat up a guy lead -- brain damaged you can play in the NFL hurt dogs in your band forever. 67221969. Of course Michael Vick belongs in the NFL and the fact there's more to protest of Michael Vick. Over the is over there are over. People who hurt other people says nothing about Michael Vick says quite a bit about us roses on 969 good morning rose or you."

" Got money micro last week rarely let we -- this. To yeah say I just wanna say. Now I understand about about Michael Vick and everything can be complete. Ball but I think that the reason why people thought I am. Because you don't get a cure a lot and the world that you do from hip cat. And -- now I never cared meatball on do we have like Singapore I."

" Thought -- and maybe look at it it usually feeds his dogs why did not need to meet all of us. -- is how -- value like that."

" Outs rose thanks for the call 6178221969. Carroll is on 969 good morning Carol appreciate the call."

" Hi Michael I just got a couple of comments. On the -- that lady who had about com. I've grown -- and outer ring and the choice to walk away in the animals do not. I suggest she get from -- Education on battered women and Charles. About the last lady who just said. That you can't get a purer wild and common dot I also disagree with Barack. I have unconditional while for my children and you can not get up you're awhile then Barack."

" Carole -- about how to go back to that other caller because what's jumped out at me if she was clearly -- and not a dope let me just thinking about how she felt. She said several times that in those crimes that the dogs in the battered women's should be treated as equals. Don't feel us -- the I think most if not most many of our fellow citizens Carol really believe. That animals and people should be treated as equals because they don't see people as more valuable more precious than it."

" You got me on now and I don't even understand how anybody could believe such a ridiculous -- areas that."

" I would never come out of my mouth that you -- daughter. You beat up my daughter in you kick my dog and I love my daughter and my dog and you're doing -- equally bad that I just I. There's something wrong I think Carol people who CNET news talk unconditional love out of I would posit something to you to throw an idea. First old dogs don't -- Cats don't argue course cats cat actually hate you wanna hurt you the separatist. No animal large. The 'cause loan. Is an act. Of volition it is the act of choice is an act of will. What dogs do. Is all program. Delay the dog feels about you. Is the way I feel about a certain co workers -- who walks by my door every day here hallelujah. It is an instinctual. Reaction. I know I mean I can be talking to my lady love right in front of me you know about online yeah it's instinct. It's program its DNA. And that's what lust is not the you don't blogs you like that you don't say it's a programmed. Reaction. Love is when the lost wears away. And two people look across each other from a at a table -- in the park whatever and they say you know what I'm gonna make a choice. To give you my affection. And the need to make a choice to give you my commitment in my loft and I know you're gonna fail and -- gonna be in a bad mood and again bad hair days and you may issue on me."

" But despite your flaws. And would give you this commitment to suspected that is -- Unconditional love is this this would all do don't do clueless -- don't -- to -- not -- an adult way yeah all. I had my choice of five masters and boy when you walked in. -- of the violence balloon and the public sitting there."

" Trust me if you walked past that cage at the -- the next dog the dog the and that. Good night and then -- don't know the next person gonna walk up and I mean this is it dogs when it comes to people dogs are whores I mean a little puppy -- of the -- they'll put out for anybody."

" It's -- you say that beating up that dog it was bad that is and yet Michael Vick at all. So W does put that same levels beating up my son my daughter my -- kidney. There's -- old -- there but we have we have -- we've created such a juvenile society."

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" Absolutely sets 6178221969. Jenny isn't he beautiful town to sell bridge Jenny you're on 99 good morning."

" Morning Michael are you. I don't think oh -- Should be really cannot tell all Michael Vick can mean it gets -- there should be higher prevalence. Players that -- all spoiled athletes. And try to get away with the thing about the other thing it does he wanted to kick by connecting people need to know all action. Yeah electrocuted. During ankle on the east that little baby eagle you'll want to get four I didn't want to just kick it dot could be didn't get."

" You have a right he EC. He sic dogs and other dogs he shot dogs each -- dogs like you treat them in the dog fighting culture that's what they do."

" I just I don't think I hope people would call it dollars and not an Eagles game the -- protest a little bit. Put that money out."

" I know you gave yourself the easy out with the none of them should be able to play because that's easy question -- and ask you the real question that's harder. Given that life speeders and staffers and robbers are playing in the NFL right now. How can you possibly defend keeping and a guy whose only crimes were against animals."

" Not trying to get a lot like that not bunch of people get that he."

" He they are playing now -- my point so in the real world that we live in how can you say it's fair to keep up Michael Vick and let these other guys play."

" Well well that sure I get -- look at -- that congress can look at a criminal records indicate that point Michael."

" Jenny thanks for the break off to a seventh driving out. Congressman a lot of things under the golden you know killers that are like Peter's or an old murders. Barney Frank now. I -- animal lover but not the and since we needed 6178221969. Of course Michael Vick belongs in the NFL. If not tell me why not I in my program."

" You cried a number of nights and about what I did. In the -- family lives so many people dale. Let myself. You know. Not being around football field and in the prison being in the prison won't."

" Until Massachusetts. Where people who spent a lifetime calling Ted Kennedy -- hero while Michael Vick bandit on the NFL. If you can make that sentence makes sense. You -- true Massachusetts liberal 61782 to 199 of course Michael Vick belongs Indiana. But I would love to hear someone who can say yes Ted Kennedy belongs in the US senate but no Michael Vick doesn't belong in the NFL -- it was -- and I think not. So -- her dogs. We have to keep this in perspective. 6178221969. Pound -- it's time for Verizon Wireless customers. This is on 969 good morning bits."

" Hi good morning. I won't take much -- your time my -- I just wanted to point out that. He's a role model he should absolutely not. -- Put up on a pedestal for my children to say allow for professional athlete. Are you made the point where. You know the society's happening in all of the pet and pet sir equal people. I agree with you -- to another not but it. There is a decent way to be. There's a deep the eastern behavior you have should it elevate these people as an role models it -- spoiled athletes. That they got this syndrome you know and I'm Michael Vick I'd I'd better again. All of these professional athletes so it wouldn't do it jewelry in the the panty flash card -- Carrying guns and and being --"

" and make him role models that. Oh absolutely and now role models to my kids."

" And it shouldn't be allowed it to be in there and Mike KG. I. You should be in a ghetto somewhere. Or or better jail."

" Are always good for him in jail for doing what to jail he did his time. And he committed a modest crime he did eighteen months in jail."

" And now we can work for eight dollars an hour at a construction."

" Why can't he work for whoever wants to hire him to do whatever they wanna do."

" Yeah. I can't argue there are just. Not as as a society we should --"

" Obviously you should -- the NFL."

" It's you can't find some decent aptly."

" We can't they answer plenty decent -- you can watch ivy league football you want. You and your friends get together have your big tailgate party for the big Colgate -- I mean. Columbia verses yea all match up you guys have a ton of fun that's what you want. If you wanna watch. Prim and proper herb -- actual -- for the -- You go right ahead meanwhile the other. 299000009. -- 9000 Americans will be watching the NFL there's people wanna watch the game it's what they want they wanna watch. The best athletes doing their best job but the best thing closely -- people are mediocre. Michael Vick is very good at something people want to watch him do that if they don't wanna watch him. He won't be able they will sell tickets and that'll be the end of that the -- I hear your disgust with the with the social attitudes. What right do you have to pull Michael Vick off the job he went to jail. -- to jail for a long the tying. Comparatively speaking. And now you're gonna punish him 'cause he makes you feel a key. It doesn't make any sense to me John is on 969 good morning John thinks the cauldron that."

" I. I think my particular second chance but there -- a lot of people out there it is our chance to -- you get sucked in -- There's a lot of people have been that would love to be a quarterback. And it -- And it fully capable but they've just been announced spot so what did he take the spot. But somebody else here had a chance."

" Oil toilet -- their fully capable they're fully capable they'd be in the spot."

" I don't like so many positions in the --"

" Now and Michael Vick is apparently in the idea in the mind the coaches one of the top fifty. That's easy backup quarterback in the NFL. Problems we should -- and we -- number 51. You give him Michael -- spot."

" There's just so people are -- would."

" While I'll go to Michael Vick get their name and that I use them as an."

" Well I -- when they start losing games because they have the sake quarterback in there that'll take care of that. Let's somehow I suspect the this is gonna sound crazy I know. That the coaches in Philadelphia think Michael Vick can actually help them win gained some now I think. They think having the highest played let what do you think he was the highest paid player in the NFL because -- Sox but he's terrible. Because he had a name. And don't think -- I think is because people thought he was good I think I don't. I'm going battle in a -- I know. Katie is on 969 good morning Katie appreciate the call."

" Good morning I'm. -- I can't believe. I really think you're just trying to get people met. Saying the thing you're saying because -- to the ridiculous. You're saying that. You know. Did it because people could put up for it he should be put back on until we can -- happy and you what he did to those dot dot. Backer of humanity and how he treats. They're -- things."

" Mike lives in girlfriend's. But the only thing girlfriend beaters are all in the NFL -- That they -- Katie they all are look easy in your right -- puppies in every wish no -- go hungry. Everyone should be beautiful blonde but Katie in the real world they Marcel how do you defend keeping Michael Vick. At the NFL."

" He shouldn't be tired they shouldn't they need to expect firmware in an as a criminal. I don't think he'd get. And let him. Everything about -- well model and act and that big week I'm not supposed to be role models not role model he could not be allowed. Where he has. He's he's kept that lead -- money."

" There are a DN FL is full -- and not."

" Yeah you care more about. You know what -- say is being good project team will -- and you -- what can you do about. But what he put. It going to hear more about. But the transport in the kicking the winning -- at our date beat dear wife and children hardy whenever they deal."

" But -- ice I will be willing to bet that you have never called the radio show to complain about Donte' Stallworth. Still playing in the NFL. I bet you never called to complain about any other. High profile athlete who's beaten the crap out of his -- for being in a bar fight to stabs them ever have because you don't care. About the wives you don't care about the kids. As much as you care about the dogs that simply a great public some Donte' Stallworth is what's his recreational activity which is they -- activity."

" I got a bit of a car accident and then -- activities a wide receiver right but he also. When his car he got drunk. He's drawn any hitting yanked him dying killed a guy he killed the guy. And what's Donte' Stallworth so NFL pro prospective that's what's his future looks like ended for a year thinkers in announcement -- He's back activity correct in the dead guy's family. Does he get six -- in the grave in the back. On the team knowledge did the death is -- the death is he's off he's cut from the Ross. That is correct well. Well I'd like to ask you questions -- certainly think oh I forgot you support big any Michael Vick believing Donte' Stallworth on the field I I'm sorry I forgot how -- Let me for a moment by your rational for a moment and listeners who -- pro Vick because he quote did his time not pro Vick who would you want your pro Vick who. Who would you rather have Steve family's house -- your house for a week right Michael Vick is a guy who got off on drowning baby animals. Or. Donte' Stallworth got had a bad night neon bright would you rather have -- I -- I ask you I'll flip the question by as."

" this who is a bigger criminal. Michael Vick who killed dogs or Ted Kennedy who killed a constituent and never did a single day in jail for."

" I think yeah. -- And love it -- you might do you -- many. -- these things. Hit home."

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" The list is."

" Can you let us not -- women. And I think it's."

" It all morning long in. Breaks to honor Bob Dylan who got the Henry gates treatments. I didn't these mighty pleased that he was in the neighborhood where he stood out because of his skin color and what he do he cooperated the police thinkin' no problems. State and any -- celebrity. Who was not recognized by the cops to their -- Tree actually behave exactly the right thing. Yeah so just good way to say thank you to remind all of the gates supporters out there how you're supposed to be made. One thing is not changing. A felon is entering the NFL nothing new about."

" That just ask Pacman Jones. Or since today defensive tackle Tank Johnson. Who. Threatened a Chicago police officer while on probation for. And pleading guilty for concealed weapon charge. And then fleeing pro bush and all or Jamal Lewis. Four months in prison for attempting to set up a -- Christian Peter who was arrested for various offenses in college including grabbing woman by the throat -- a freshman. And sexually assaulting two women. And then eventually was drafted by the New England Patriots. But they wouldn't take him. They said -- they let him go you know problem join the NFL. Plaxico Burress and blob I mean look it's a lot Ray Lewis member of the murder charges that were there were filed against him after a stabbing. And on and on and on and there are people who want to keep. Michael Vick out of the NFL who've never express an opinion one way or another by the long litany of -- he's girlfriend beaters like Peters says her. That are in the NFL why it's because. I'll be screwed up. Morality. The modern America were animals matter more than wives and children I want a standout in dispute the call earlier who said that. Kicking a dog in kicking your daughter should be treated as equal. I don't agree my daughter. My family the people I love that people I hate. All people are more valuable more precious than any. Animal. And good hearted mush minded jokes like my producer of the great and powerful Tom don't understand what they're saying is that the lives of people are demean. The people have. Less value there only as valuable as dogs and cats as part of our poll question by the way today Michael Graham dot com. The Michael -- question. From the jet promote insurance poll should Michael Vick be allowed to play in the NFL yes he served as time though his crime was way -- Regis. Of course not having criminals of football is like not having steroids in baseball or of the final vote off off off. Because you want everybody to be. Represented. Michaels on 969 good morning Michael thank you for."

" I'm like -- Michael Michael Michael going once twice daily Michael Vick is unable to hear us on his cell phone. Let's see -- listeners in the morning you're on 969 with Michael Grant."

" I'd like why -- first. I do agree with you comical that you should be allowed in an awful. What about these horrible crimes. He he didn't jail. The bill that is if you have every right well the -- job whoever wherever you want. Would you hire to absolutely."

" You wouldn't feel bad hiring a guy who. Treated animals --"

" Apple would do background checks for and depending reality in this crime but. He'd never need to serve -- jail he deserves to the job."

" thanks for the call 6178221969. Greg is on 969 good morning Greg."

" I -- I agree completely optional and you hit the nail on the had a few callers back. -- I love my I don't know what you yeah. On the other thing that I think -- is really driving a lot of this is there's a real misconception in America today animals have a right. -- Don't have rights what human beings at. Troubled -- retreated in a certain way and that's more reap what you not authentic and on down. Inaudible do not have rights they may be. -- players that it is his behaviors is a terrible scar on on what's hot on him as a human."

" that we tolerated it says something about us when he engages and an assist on the about him but in no way does it say anything about the dogs or any inherent right that the dog."

" Right the -- don't have right. I think make people like Mary Tyler Moore and Rosie O'Donnell winning and your caller -- potential people but animals have rights. It blows my mind."

" Let me ask which I think of that and them of an animal that eats at the entities dolls. For example small dogs. Preyed upon. I don't like by coyotes or by sometimes as in the movie the proposal showed Hawke Petit picked up a little poodles all right it was gonna eat it. So does that because the hawk or the coyote is violating the dogs writes that mean this goes to -- the hawks and coyotes."

" We'll."

" Of course not not because the dog doesn't have the right to live. We -- all the dog is the right to yelled to live as long as the -- animals each other animals criminal of course not. If you don't have rights little cows have rights is allowed to arrest every guy you'll ever got to -- buddy mark average rose and runs popular sausage and provisions that north Providence and -- is delicious. A sausage uses the organic chicken organic because one of those guys. But I mean we arrest mark because he's got he's a pig India and other animals in his shop. Course not. Now if -- mark was medias like sit taken them electric prod to shock and whenever -- okay. Hey that's cool let's inhumane behavior and we're going to stop you restrict you because of our standards of humidity but not because of any right of the pig. 6078221969. John is on 969 good morning John."

" A couple points -- someone just -- that record thing backpack Pollard talked about -- athletes as role model I don't know when parents are gonna learn. -- Got in due to your kids really -- yet is that they're gonna have a talk with them. But you can't rely on them -- back on a roll your kid's life. -- Over a hundred million -- That's how much Michael Vick did not occur. See you in the time that you lost people out the door it -- hundred million dollars of legal beat. And sent eighteen months in prison and now he went from being wiwa is to a back -- quarterback but one you to deal and potentially an option I mean it's complete all. From Grey's and I think what this really comes down here is that you know I don't like Michael Grant picked I would hire Michael Vick. But. You know just because you don't like something doesn't mean that it shouldn't be."

" Exactly and it is the -- dvds appeal system to suck -- letters -- because you think there is key. It's crazy because I I guarantee John if you can put people in jail forever because -- don't like them. I will be in a very small cell for a very long time particularly when Obama isn't power so you -- and I. It's it's like this scares me. We throwing our brains out the window because of feelings for animals. If you have this conversation after Michael Vick did you know had -- hurt a person. I mean a very give -- position and allow you now man I mean and I don't know that I would would still can be on the same spot which is once you serve your time. We in America don't we don't mark people scarlet letter original cut off the arms for permanent punishment will brand them. We believe you pay your time you do your -- in the prison system. You have your probation whatever and you go on and try to do something better with your life and if you do oh that's looked -- as a success right at least prison he did something bad he comes out he does well we think that's good right. So I think I'd still end up there even if Michael -- can hurt people. But to listen to people trying to trash -- not boring people which you would even Canada to be hurt people you wouldn't even be an idea topic. The because he hurt dogs. It's. It's a problem it shows this is dying sense of humanity between us I will. Care about every one of view my listeners. More than Iowa and who I don't know. I will care about you more than I'll ever care about any animal. 6078221969. Michelle isn't Falmouth Michelle good morning here on 96 now Michael."

" That anyone who could actually hurt animal has been psychologically. And the intricate and let. And they have unconditional love it I don't like pretty child in -- way I mean it's not that extreme but. An adult workers thinking maybe trying to beat their relationship a -- it and trap."

" So if he'd kicked. A little kid. He can go and play in the NFL."

" not kicking the little kid but I'm saying I can't think. The only Felix psychologists when you're younger -- animal that he do that -- yeah."

" Well maybe doesn't screw loose but don't people have jobs all over America screws loosening Keith Olbermann has a job. He's stricken and said."

" Let me handle our -- I just think that keep a critic and that you're. Picking up something."

" I can understand that you feel that way you may actually affect you right but what does that have to do with Michael Vick being able to go get a job. Saying I should never I think it's."

" I think that if it happens to somebody who. Would you want that in the NFL I think that they were probably and the work that like you know. Like any person who get a crack it like at 7-Eleven that I just think that the fact that he can go back in the NFL. You know he doesn't even feel bad for what he Egypt feels Baxter optical."

" Sure but what -- the other people who are plumbers. Who have been convicted of the torch crimes against animals -- go back to plumbing. Yeah acres that are selling this is his job this is what he does. And I -- I see why is he different from the guys went to jail for killing people while driving drunk or beating up their wives or girlfriends how's he different."

" I don't think that -- I just think that fact that he can go kit kit kind of the way at -- was a consequence."

" we -- he lost a hundred million dollars an -- he spent eighteen months in jail."

" Debate and the consequent but I did think that the act like it I don't think -- bad -- what do you think he'll actually what happened."

" You know what Michelle in America we don't require people to feel anyway we send Chris out they do their time they leave the and if somebody said I'm not gonna give you your job back. Yell as whenever landscape are as. Cook again -- would -- this come as they see me going on I don't think. So it's all skewed by skewed feelings about animals. You're a little fuzzy puppy who I love and I Grupo dogs -- look on your little fuzzy puppy my friends. And has driven you insane."

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