08/25/09:Investigating the CIA

" I B six -- W -- Greg Reynolds on this certain topics as soon as you hear about them you go I can't wait to hear it Jay Severin has to say about this. Yeah absolutely particularly topics involving the laws in security. Absolutely any global -- as well right well. The -- does not the White House is created this new office that is going to oversee interrogation of terrorists terror suspects. You know what this I heard something -- I want it poses toward -- to have an elite interrogation unit to handle the key terror suspects so this is the police Sheikh Mohammed and Osama lawns of the future right. Right now let me read to you. From the Washington post's coverage of the story. Interrogators will not necessarily. Read detainees their rights before questioning. Not necessarily. They'll make that determination and a case by case basis. It's not going to be automatic. That they'll be -- and dies that is yet directories silent."

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" The Obama administration by their own admission is going to stand in front of Osama bin Laden. And say you have the right to remain silent anything you say can will be used against that they're not kidding this is. This is from the right wing news source the Washington Post."

" Well not yet not not the actual -- and yeah yeah we use yes yes. Interrogators will not necessarily read detainees their rights for questioning. Instead they will make that decision on the case by case basis so sometimes they will. Moran died that and the actual the guy sees a phrase Miranda the source. Not the post the sort."

" You were planting a uranium. Topped dirty bomb at Boston Harbor. The other rights remain silent. About the other bomb in Los Angeles. That's the Obama -- Atoms thick as music did you not wish we had like a time machine just go to 305 right now to hear what he's -- gonna say about this."

" Do you think that may be like death affected that might be making some law enforcement job mildly -- Well I can't."

" Imagine anybody. Who's going to. Do something to make it."

" Harder for the RC so yes you got harder. And -- And that's okay because that's why we can take such extraordinary pride in being America."

" That's okay yes. -- now does this -- weekly standard has a piece about this and you're just tuning in is not a joke this is not a -- this is not. Mean mocking the candidate Obama a year ago going."

" You could listen to is god he's got a lot of read Gerris there are -- The comedy of last year is the reality of this year. The weekly standard as a piece about opus. Members of this high value detainee interrogation group. Will almost rely exclusively. On the army field manual for guidelines on interrogation. And thus presumably they'll have required did the qualities desirable and an interrogator. As designated by the field manuals. You definitions of the field manual has. Like if you should you become an interrogator. Here are the qualities were looking for an green is directly. You have an interest in human relations. Eight desire to react to the challenge of personal interplay. And enthusiasm for the collection of information. And a profound interest and foreign language and cultures. Then you might be the next member of Barack Obama as high value detainee interrogation group."

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" It's okay we'll read you your. Acts. This is one of the few moments I've wished it was on satellite radio so I can tell you check that it. Holy crap is about as close as I can get. 617822969. You have to laugh to keep from crying I -- Michael Graham."

" This continued the classification. Of CIA reports and other internal documents. Makes it impossible to have a clandestine intelligence service if you don't want an intelligence service say so but the idea that you can have a secret. Intelligence capability and talk about it in public every day is obviously contradictory -- where we're causing damage. To our intelligence gathering and covert operations capabilities that are gonna last for years if not decades."

" 123. Michael Graham remember when during the campaign people got so upset. Because John McCain and others said. Electing President Obama would make America less safe. Can't we all agree that. For whatever motive he made really does motives in making that he's right that that we have to stop these CIA from blowing smoke on people who waving and the guns at people."

" Can we not all agreed that present Obama has made us less safe in fact isn't it true. The present Obama basically has admitted -- The he's making us less safe and now at I say is seeking the attack dogs on the CIA is gonna make -- worse do you agree 6178221969. Even if you think he's doing the right thing you have to admit that one of the costs but what he's doing is it's gonna be."

" Harder to protect -- what makes the United States special and what makes you special. Is precisely the fact that. We are willing to uphold our values and ideals even when it's hard not just one of these."

" So do you agree. That quote upholding his values that is. Criminalizing the CIA and reading. Your Miranda rights to terror arrests. Do you agree that this -- got to be done okay fine but you have to agree that also makes us less safe. And because it limits what the intelligence community that's trying to protect --"

" I'm sure that sometimes it seems as if that means were. Operating with one hand tied behind her back or. Those who would argue for a higher standard. Or night. I understand. I watched cable shows once."

" Oh good I'm glad you get your commission somewhere Mr. President amber is on 969 morning amber thanks for the call."

" I'm well actually I'm a former army soldier I actually an entire -- and I do that and what you don't hear it. -- the -- I hate it interrogate people do it. Eight people are -- here -- not like we're quandary. I wonder if it's cute you know it it can't -- I wonder if you might you of people that we now. Kill people. And did it on carpet in order cracked our country and Bartlett and oh with a moderate and right don't do it again but don't dear friend. And about five more months we're gonna -- it can get it back -- And you know what it my friend died therefore. Perhaps the lecture. You know go and pretend to be able to go back and make bigger groups and come back to -- again."

" You know amber there was a guy named -- why did I forget the whole name he was. In a group of people. Not soldiers the terrorists who threw a hand grenade at a young group of American soldiers in Afghanistan and injured all three of them. I'll be -- was grabbed -- he was very badly treated. By the -- in. Military guys who captured and in many was badly treated. In gitmo. So what we did is we set aside all the information got to have him from that bad treatment is started over and what he happily confessed. Was that he was -- you know member of the tell Medicaid whatever he went to training camp he volunteered to go kill Americans. That he -- So that Ellis is only the only way to get also and the only thing he did admit he didn't actually throw. The anger and a but he was with them. And he was glad to kill Americans want and Americans dead it was part of -- military operation to kill Americans. You know what the Obama station has done them. In -- Mexicans that the."

" They expect that they look great and -- bank. We know eight PR I -- terrorists they they don't care if they weren't built for their god which you know I'm not not outlet and eight -- that I ever stop being -- country at all backed away though or. I've got and it and our own country you gonna back up and come back get our people. It cannot that they get a -- but. These cheer it need to be stopped and whether it's gonna take it -- I. No but there seem like ball on it not going to be -- be out act you're gonna be out the next two years. We're gonna keep -- for a while until we find a way. Despite all these people that apple these problems that are that are coming out. And -- to get into them or check that is not the trial was that the weight because we don't -- be right here at our own country you want it up here."

" Well amber thanks to service a thanks a listening 6178221969. DNA is a Boston good morning Dan you're on the air."

" Michael. If people want convicted of and so they're they're suggest that they are not that will -- not criminals and support. Exactly does not criminals -- to do business. Equipment men charged in the."

" They're not guitarist because -- not to be elected the Nazis that we gunned down on the battlefield -- are finding."

" What what Japanese president the tortured -- yeah. The week week we tried them. Sure they were to the cubs got and so all of people are not -- Pollard name are creating war -- are committed war."

" I'm sorry what's the war crime and and and and and upon -- and what what people we where's where's the well first of all we can -- get -- towards him where's the war -- don't get. Oh sorry I'm sorry about that LA. And let you know the reality is now over reality is now done when Alan DN's world is large -- is concerned it's a war crime doesn't."

" Out of the Geneva convention. Doesn't matter the -- invention does not extend protections to terrorists because terrorists explicitly reject the rules of law and the rules of engagement -- the world he's decided. That the terrorists deserve to have their rights read to them as an extra day and the we're talking like your world and not reality --"

" We pull people a lot about Obama -- Barack we wish them that we are are guilty of rendition shipping them. He -- and releases. Would let them. Why did you Obama and -- and why and read not literally on the dean --"

" Dan what do you mean we're guilty being guilty of rendition was an --"

" What -- that mean again that we captured people and that brings them back the US where they should have been brought."

" Hello Linux are they not stop shop that's indians' world that's what they should have been brought -- say the things other true. You say for example rendition -- of crime and of course tradition is not only not a crime president Obama's doing it right now and continues to support the rendition policy so you throw did you do you favor I love dance world sells a great place to live as you please talk about. Earth world destroy -- earth a --"

" Well this -- we have Abu Ghraib. -- credit's okay and and thankfully Obama didn't relief."

" The latest photos because -- T ball boy. Michael we don't come close stand in the name of the war on it and."

" It's gonna come back to -- not the PA by Rumsfeld Dick Cheney enjoys."

" He's a stand January a year after people got hurt people but interestingly got a named a single. Criminal act not want and now do you know of any. Another okay whatever -- exactly see. This is this is why don't understand president Obama's political thinking the only people who are happy to see American CIA agents who put their reputations on the line to save your life Philip -- to see -- criminalized is the and Kooks like it looks like Dana screaming yell about -- all of sports fortunately thank god. Did and it real live indians' world -- is not as far. It is a matter how Dan is concerned the good news is that when you choose to be a terrorist as opposed to being a soldier. You don't get the same protections. As American soldiers Marines and airmen and sailors who wear uniforms fly a flag follow a command. And -- government and fight under the rules you're not entitled to the now do you want you to be DNC is a terrorist in DNC's an American marine. Running up to save a child in the middle of the street into DNC's the same thing -- he's a terrorist. In a burka with a bomb strapped to his chance to blow up a bus full of children. And -- a marine running out into. Crossfire to save a child he sees the same guy. In at the -- is captured in the Marines captured he thinks he should both be treated the same -- That's tells you what Dan thinks of the American Marines what's scary is how many -- out there who support president."

" Obama's policy most of the people who oppose these techniques. Want to be able to say I don't want my nation doing this which is a truly honorable position. And they didn't work anyway that back half of the sentence isn't true the facts of the case are. That the use of these techniques against these terrorists. Made us safer it really did work."

" A former CI AT Michael Hayden the -- opinion. And of every head of the CIA. Since 9/11 dissolves the conclusion in the inspector general's report that came out yesterday. That says and I quote. There interrogation that is the interrogation has provided intelligence that has enabled identification and apprehension and other terrorists and warned of terror plots planned the United States and around the world that is going to end. The people who did are now being investigated and potentially prosecuted by the Obama administration. In President Obama has set -- a new interrogation unit through the White House that is going to -- in dies. Read the Miranda rights of non citizen terrorists. That they capture not all the terrorists they admit well. Only some of the terrorists will be -- Have their rights read them is that how you -- fight the war on terror are you upset that we brandished -- guns in blue cigar smoke into the face. Of a terrorist and tricked him by making it look like we had beaten up another terrorist and said we were gonna hurt their family would -- nobody was actually -- Doing and -- stuff. -- one email who was early at a great point oh -- says Michael. To -- candid camera back in the seventies they get worse things for the people on the show them we're doing the terrorists. Think to a 78221969. -- on 9692 morning George."

" It is. That the terrorist -- eleven that they give any rights or Alter billing to the people in the World Trade Center and one other point I'd like to make. Obama looking -- popularity on his health care reform -- that this might be just days wait through. People's mind off well here's your."

" I you if you look at the front page of the boss of the Democrat today -- very astute observation on your behalf on your part. For the first time that a long time there is not a health -- story on the news on the front page is -- little. Like in the sidebar woods says the one sensors as you mentioned. But no no health care stories there you have very good point 6178221969. -- says on 969 morning Lisa how are you."

" I don't why. Not I'm wondering if we'll be considered torture dictate these terrorists. Put them in -- without these -- to do that and turned them down the jet planes."

" If there was any frightening I don't know we'll be Georgia -- David frighteningly easy thanks for the great call. Gloria is on 9690 good morning -- you're on the air."

" Good morning Michael thanks for taking my call. I'm -- Mike are now pretty angry about that caller and I think it is -- no polite I've done for years in the marine corps on beauty and for a while on the reserves. Hi there have been some very famous operations Barack. Has spent a great deal of time there. Really angered me it six year. Listen to somebody -- so -- I even had no clue what it's like to be in that position. Get no clue what it's like you can't sit there and you can't -- backs and bring these people to court OK because back kind of and it just doesn't stick to act on evidence first. And secondly I personally don't something that somebody here and they are not the right thing you but don't think the state primary lives. And for somebody to sit here with no clue what it's like -- say those things really redeploy or just. You know it really upsets me -- you -- no idea what it's like. At all."

" The -- good News To Go with your anger okay -- The majority of Americans are we view. The vast majorities Americans look at this nonsense that blue White House the day in advocating go you gotta be kidding me the vast majority say quarry. Do what you have to do to protect your fellow Marines and get yourself home safe that's Clinton the vast overwhelming majority of Americans they are on your side."

" Out to god you're right Michael is but I feel it's gonna it's gonna. The cost American lives -- the ignorance of people like that in -- if this really goes through the CIA cannot be. Harsh interrogation techniques whether they're supposed to or not they can not do it. Then at 10 o'clock people's lives."

" And -- reporter for the weekly standard yesterday reported he had spoken to somebody who coordinates interrogators. In Afghanistan right now and -- he said they are already pulling back there are already saying forget it. If it's risky at all of its in its edgy at all and it's gonna let the guy keep this information you know that means a means less intelligence for you Cory. -- you're out in the field so first thing is think to -- service. -- as I know I'm right. In this one of the great things are working with the Fisher house is I get to see how generous American. The American people are towards our and that the members the members of our military and there's a way for you sure -- support right now WTKK dot com. The Deutsche Bank challenge this year one of the charities that they're supporting. Is the Fisher house here in Boston. In the golfers in here -- KG seven myself -- other folks have put together some packages for you to bid on a -- BT KK dot com including a chance to play golf. With one of the PGA touring pros just to walk with some of the pros inside the ropes during the DBC's this is amazing stuff. And it's available right now and WTKK dot com the bidding goes on all this week so please bid. All of the proceeds go to Fisher house Boston a way to show Corey and other guys like Cory how you feel about them how you want to. Back about 6078221969. Jonathan is on 9690 good morning Jonathan your on the."

" All right so. I think about this is the actual actual vote that they used to clutch situations they'll quote quote terrorist suspects. Catching Garrett on the field of battle or Netgear operation. But not preachy or some sort of weaponry McCain. Are uniform. And my opinion -- apparently -- But -- that I have a problem with it but we -- intelligent than some very actionable and we use some of the programs like extraordinary addition. Why wouldn't it was started I didn't -- Clinton. So we shouldn't tell it."

" don't forget to point out it's continuing underneath the Obama."

" Its its annual and we go get a guy from another country and we treat him. Act as if we got a mop the battlefield -- public and likely be a scenario you share your opinion on its 1980 story. Beauty yeah British army is what -- I our current war. Michael Graham and the young man goes to a sympathetic. Meetings where support -- RA which in the United States. That -- five. -- got your picture you're commented -- made bear. And some sort of other intelligent and someone opposite that you provide funding the whatever at the right to come into this country. Ratchet up the streets. Take you to another country. And you you know rights entry -- is saying they would treat a combatant on the deal."

" But you guys get an interest in ways they do they have the right but that that's an irrelevant question quizzes they have the ability they have the ability to get me in to take me. And that's it in the United States key issues that they deem. Britain's actions you know outside the acceptable they can use various things from reality economic pressure to military might take me back. Bush is and they do it."

" It would be really bad -- so do you believe -- totally. Cotton not in a combatant role model at information that would get from sauce WB and and and Eric."

" Somebody could for example tell me who the members of the terrorist group word. And has that information and has to be tortured to give it up a not torture but whenever you know water boarded -- kept up later -- cigarette smoke and yes absolutely go right ahead."

" If you can bet my apartment -- build about -- yeah 88. I believe it that's evidence right BA but."

" I well I'm the opposite unite the ups and I actually would if you're willing to show up and a battlefield with a weapon. I'm willing to go to extend the unlawful combatant protections to use the -- some protections but not all but it's the guy who's the dirt bag terrorist who is trying to blow up a building he's -- trying to blow up at the -- citizen I wake doesn't want them to think that I want soldiers and Marines get killed. But I do soldiers the Marines that soldiers and Marines jobs here's what happens when the terrorist grabbed a soldier Marines. We kill ten of them for every one of us they kill. What what -- terrific book guide David villa deal -- that Michelle have you when it's a diluted or Jordan or -- George -- its. As to book a a real light the -- what happens second Fallujah. Especially want. The guy that -- after the guy that outrages me the three guys that were water boarded we're not field combatants are now us."

" May I hand grenades on an -- As she a a truck or whatever. These guys were plotting how we get uranium into the United States and explosive and put it where you eat lunch. How could we get explosives in or another plane to hit the tallest building in Los Angeles. Where people are just sitting there typing how can we do that that's the terror threat."

" And those of the guys were getting these protections and those are the guys at present Obama's standing up on in saint lo. Committed. You want to sit in that building you take your chances. Because I'm gonna give you read these guys their Miranda rights. And I'm not gonna let you point a scary. Tool at them from the tool shed."

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