09/24/09 - Generally Speaking with Attorney General, Martha Coakley

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" Speaking of cops we're joined by someone who I believe there's a whole list that her husband who was a cop. Never did he tells what you told us rarely rarely did he tell noted Norfolk Coakley the attorney general masters star power you -- I'm very well now are you vote good Attorney General Martha -- the top cop no you can't do that she likes -- until. Locally what do think of Paul -- interim senator from Massachusetts."

" I think it's a good choice and I'll tell you why like. My main concern obviously is someone who's interested in running for that seat is. That the office be open consistently maintained that constituent files and all the work going on. On be kept current and up to date so that whoever comes and whether it's -- and -- hope it's me but. It and -- you'll come in with six months of work that had to go to the congressman or Senator Kerry that's a very important part was Senator Kennedy did. On he knows the staff he knows the work has to be -- he's an organized guy he knows Washington and he will do that. The other reason that I think he has the gravitas and a standing. You know we know that they're going to be important for its votes of Senator Kennedy were alive we know on the devoted and that's what he's going to do."

" Does a -- of Imus similarly data -- this effect that I would guess out of the Democratic Party infrastructure. That they are not eighteen people in Massachusetts who know. Who the person is who now is gonna represent them -- mid January is a virtual in the party apparatus hugely known obviously huge figure virtually unknown in the population who -- these are presenting is that a problem."

" Well I don't think so it's an appointment and governor always gets to a point and we always had this discussion should you know DA's be appointed or should be judges be appointed. Judges are appointed most people don't know who judges -- the picked on merit their pick not because they're popular because they're well known. This is a very particular. Supplemental. Situation to an election that's ongoing and it's really just to fill in the enters disease here. So I think the governor wanted to get -- and who who wouldn't be overly political wouldn't politicize it or but he would do a job and go and do it and."

" And -- is just the orange. Yeah -- it do listen to me it looks so political because it seems to me this was what to take in the main clients in mines with -- certainly has children one at the stimulant to top Patrick is rolling cameras that attempt to get back."

" The -- is here she is the attorney general -- couple minutes early we'll take a brief news break -- venture of -- for an -- I want to say again I'll say -- the attorney general Massachusetts. The attorney general comes in every month answer questions we're gonna stop -- answering other questions we want her here she is here she is the attorney general on shall be back with you right after this. There are."

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" Visit from the attorney general come -- the Massachusetts. A Martha Coakley she was here with us today for the hour Aniston said before. The attorney general is running to the United States senate we are going to have other senatorial candidates in with us as well during this short campaign."

" Everywhere as -- and every single one of them will be invited and those who dance of the desperate protest that's right when neither one of Christian can."

" Withstand withering examination that you -- the minute you put those brave enough to commend this dollar rally would say. Into the fact -- we'll be here to to withstand the question. And I'm sure Jim has my poems -- game right we're ready with that I. Well -- about fifteen minutes at the end they for the election you have I'm working I don't Russians. Okay that check to send them down. So okay."

" A couple quick things about that the -- to master before the -- for the break about Paul Kirk gave him a fine in the endorsement I."

" I believe we asked to remain and we didn't but if we -- we should have we were on this in terms senate. Pick the legislature going hand cocaine to Patrick having eight. An opportunity to appoint a senate believe Hugh at one point you were sure that you changed your mind."

" Right I wasn't sure so that's not change your mind that's -- making sure that you think it through in the -- figure out what makes sense and in what. You know people were concerned about as though it looks like we're changing a minor flip flopping again and in -- way I look at it having thought it through and knowing I'm running for -- It it is. A supplement to its not gonna -- special election people still get to elect who's going to be the new US. Which is the way we want and I think -- should be. And then we get the additional coverage of someone. Who will do the constituent work in and provide for the votes as senator -- devoted. And so I told the Senate prison that to the governor -- I told the speaker -- that that these from Mike when he fuel wasn't my decision but that's my. That was my approach to and so if they made the decision they did that that was fine with."

" Let me ask a related question about attorney general in terror potential attorney general views of -- this interim thing and assigned numbers -- the attorney general. -- your 67221969. Pound 969 from a Verizon most owners you wanna email -- questions we suggest they be other than. Does she support the slot for an -- is these states and which router to that I can't wait an hour that you can hold a later in the show. Martha Coakley the Republicans actually some Democrats as well believe -- Deval Patrick does not assess. The authority. To declare an emergency and a point. Paul Kirk is sworn in tomorrow through fifteenth the legislature failed -- two thirds yesterday to attach an emergency preamble there's something in -- article 48 of the constitution -- initiative section that says under certain circumstances with a letter of the State's secretary he unilaterally can declare an emergency does he have the power to do this and what role if any does the attorney general. If not if if when Republicans. Challenge this is --"

" Well I believe they have challenged -- her will with a lawsuit fairly certain. That there will in which case we play the role we always do when the government has sued and and our government bureau attorneys. On behalf of the governor will defendants who if and when it is filed. He does I believe have the authority to do that because it think the Republicans are wrong. It is true that if the two thirds vote -- legislation passes and they put the emergency preamble peace in. On then it's in in effect immediately most legislation will be ninety days. But there's a 1975. Opinion the justices. Our supreme judicial court from time to time that very often. Will issue an opinion on a question like this process question. And my understanding from talking to my staff is that. They issued a decision in 1955 this says. Whether or not there is the emergency peace in the legislation the governor himself has pretty wide discretion. By virtue of this letter to make a determination. That it is in the public interest and therefore you know it's a broader definition emergency embassies in the public interest particular effect right away. This is a perfect example of that if it doesn't go into effect for ninety days and it's almost moved in so if you are going to do it has the clearance until legislature to do it and it to go into effect immediate."

" Please so we make the counter argument actually I want the outcome to be what you're suggesting a one. To be represented story at 315 tomorrow but another argument to Republicans -- which to me sounds not ridiculous. Is the legislature has given. It's his declared it's well -- well as of yesterday is that this is not an emergency by virtue of the fact that they didn't vote the two thirds to attach a preamble so was it not relevant to argue if they go before the spring judicial court to say. To me the body to pass this thing that god to the desk of the governor they themselves don't consider emergencies that not a relevant consideration."

" It is and that's what they'll argue and that's what the court will listen to an in your now drawing. Conclusions from numbers that you know we didn't get two thirds that we can't therefore be an emergency and that's precisely why the governor has other authority. To say well in fact it is. An emergency in the sense that it is in the public interest to enforce the will of the legislature that we appoint an insurance and it. Send -- now. And an I have every belief that the court is pretty wide discretion it's one of those. You know there's division of powers the legislature can -- so much and the governor this is we believe clearly within the scope of what he can do he's done it the facts supported in the prior decisions being huge port supports."

" 67221969. -- something very rare and we will stop talking we'll let you start talking -- on who this is she's monthly caller Cathy from Cathy from -- Bergeron with the Attorney General Martha -- welcome --"

" Hi thank you thank you for taking my column pleasure I can't. How are you market goodbye thank you can't paint banks and you've got a lot of support here in north central math then. We're rooting for you banks -- you know I can't even -- Where it still having out it is here on blue sky days I know -- only is he ruling. Now it's helping me you could shed some light on it we're gonna be hearing relic known and termed -- I know you recommended the mine. That rejects -- you know we're still having over billing issues. And still talking to people that I've I've crippled with these bills. Telling them to go through the process collier Mattel have them check the -- style and on line complaint. But it you know the problem still exist out here it's not just about the ice storm."

" Yet no that's a fair question get in you know I just that part of the statement Sunday and it was a beautiful day like it is today and it's hard to believe. What he went through in that ice storm when you have this weather but I appreciate what you're telling us. At this stage I can't I don't know what the timing of the DP you will be hopefully it'll be in the very near future that is in a month or two but I don't currently have the inside track and that. On we've been waiting. On a week to week basis we expect it will be soon. On and I hope that it will address not only that preparedness for the ice storm but the issues that you talk about that's -- a public utilities should be doing. He's being fair to consumers on billing practices. And then when a catastrophe it's you know being prepared for it. So I know the deep views grappling with those issues and fortunately some of those moves a lot slower than -- like it too but. Hopefully we'll get that decision soon and we can look at what that means -- start to implement it. And and I hope you -- those of you in the number in this community's -- have to -- anything like that through that again issued last winter."

" I have to thank you so much -- and remote code from disaster was no electricity -- time you never people calling us during that have been released Taylor days -- their flu was challenge and I'll say isn't in the -- frozen egregious thing was they did not have something in place for people whose."

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" Ryan in a car Euronext the Attorney General Martha Coakley welcome right Ryan."

" Although it's Bryant. Brian. Condit or why you know what what Ebert he has that allows. Governor Deval Patrick the."

" Ignored stay on Google point senator and our have to wait in ninety days and if if it is so important. That we not be one vote short. What was that power taken away from Mitt Romney years ago."

" Well you see what would Ronnie had in what was always the practice in Massachusetts was that the governor as still as the case in other states the governor could appoint. The senator for the remainder of the term in this instance it would have been through 32 so. The legislature is that we'd rather have an election we think it's more democratic and with a background is to this -- You know you can say that's as the Democrats. I didn't want -- Republican two point governor but we've seen them with Illinois in new York and I think on balance -- others who the governor is I think most people would agree it's better to have an election. However the problem with that is even in a short election period we now recognize. And we have a gap -- we have a time period in which we have nobody. Doing it constituent work and nobody voting in so this was to fill in that gap. On the court can decide whether it was an emergency or not I happen to believe that. If we don't do it as a emergency that is in the best interest of the commonwealth now. Then it's moved in so the Republican Party has or will file a suit and the courts will decide it hopefully quickly. But if we're gonna do it it does make sense that we ninety days it's kind of self evident that it's it's neat it's an emergency and that respect Brian thank you so much of the call."

" I felt very nervous myself and these recent days you're I thought well I felt that in an emergency sort of remotely have a look at our for the Mars last. A couple of days you know we you talked a lot at the York. This nonprofit. Monitoring things -- that you compensation against the competition. We had in the in the papers this week historians."

" It needs Julien Julien feeling nearly millions he's being from Boston Medical Center."

" Where she had to lay off at least -- 130 people at the same time -- a million plus 93 point five million dollar."

" Bonus."

" And they had to cut costs considerably."

" We think the Attorney General Martha Coakley. "

" Well as you know we oversee the not for profits and that includes -- medical sender. Partners. Lacklustre shield all of the insurance providers. And hospitals. On keep in mind that the bonuses. Part of a lifetime structure contract she's supposed to be retired and not diminishing the difficulty of that. And I know that they are also engaged. In discussions and litigation against the state because of contracts and so you got it it -- and some center at a separate the two things out. You know is was BMC's post -- money. An and did they hire people and have employees based upon the belief that that money to do it now you've got a contract that she has as a CEO. That's coming to an end and so there's there's an amount when you put those two things together at a context. I agree it raises serious questions for people in this economy but I will say is this we issued a large report in the last couple of weeks about this whole issue of compensation. Four directors. Four CEOs for boards. And we have undertaken to ask for in look at that whole structure we're not in the position to micromanage and say. People should debate this -- that what we aren't in position to do though is to ask each of the not for profits to say to the boards into the CEOs. That as you are organizes and not for profit and you don't have boards of directors and shareholders that you report to you report to the attorney general's office we serve that role. You have to justify this you have to. Acknowledge or lay out why. These salaries or these compensation packages makes sense in light of your mission and an idea of competition in in look I'm not I think we have to understand there's a difference between the not for profit in -- garden club. And you know the BMC if you wanna get good smart. Tough people at the top you're gonna have to pay -- competing with the for profit world for that talent and so a pitching -- look at."

" I hit an argument all the time to meet the problem that argument -- is the same thing as saying you could go out and be a private attorney make a ton of money you've chosen to be public servant. I don't know why that argument even applies to -- that the state would be you know what ms. Gillian you wanna run BNC this has a special mission is as got a lot taxpayer involvement. He wanted to come here people the -- you're gonna have to pay cut because the taxpayers can't be asked to pay. Corporate America -- salaries. This ethical question I think Q what about the ethics of this laying off 130 people cutting back at 35% saying. But go ahead you can make a million plus plus -- opponents this ethical problem."

" Well at that maybe an -- that has been raised and you raise it today and -- and -- and a lot of the institutions are gonna have to answer that key and nine. You know it's not like they're two of the taxpayer funded they they. They are not for profit that mean I don't. Have profits to share with their -- of tires brakes well they do but also they -- enormous amounts of good work you know a place like the NC takes people into the emergency room. And provides healthcare and a half to people who don't have insurance people under covered and -- that they do. Enormous amounts of work and so they have contracts with the state through Medicaid Medicare to do that so. You know I don't diminish that these issues are front and center everywhere particularly in Boston and the timing of this. And the appearance of it for the BM CI think is something they're gonna have to explain and that that issue Euphrates. It is something that's within our scope and we just said that it's a bigger it is likely."

" you guys and disperse things that they're have to explain meaning I'm one of the people to whom they have to explain. Is you because so if they said I know there's no magic number but I just need to understand briefly if you can how works. It's three and a half million dollars on the way out or some deferred compensation. If or six -- If or nine million if or twelve million what's the criterion the attorney general you apply to say this just doesn't pass the smell test and it doesn't pass legal -- either wind is that point reached."

" Well you have to look at what is the basis of that compensation how was it bargained for in what was his -- to represent. I don't know the background of you know personally as a cigarette on the with a history of it was or Wyatt is there. You may recall that you may not but. This was an issue with blue cross blue shield went before the currency you know and board president came -- it was a huge amount of of the payout to a very talented. Smart guy who came in and they needed and because you guys already hammered the health -- stuff and in Massachusetts in the nineties. When -- Ron Aiken in there are a lot of places on the watch list about the collapse they were gonna go under. There was a need to bring in people to com back in and build up is I think they've gone with expertise that our hospitals when he first street these are businesses these are companies. They're not just you know as I said the garden club the boy scout team. And so you needed to bring in people and and frankly we live in a country for better or worse than when you want good talent you have to pay for it that's the so I'm not in justifying it either way and -- you gotta put in the context and this will come under our school as we look at it as we look at all."

" These institutions should take -- argument that we have picked an -- beat a dead of course you're currently in the argument that when you have. EE have to pay for the best talent. The -- I mean that -- that's in the Senate known some public services deputy Tarek is everybody can -- remind the private sector we seemed hollow argument out in these cases. And I'm not sure holes watering talking about it group that's as involved in with Republican attacks fairest thing."

" Yet the only thing and that margin and I hear you it's a difference between being a senator or legislator where you were elected and truly public servant. And you are hospital administrator and you need the skills and talent to do that. The fact major organized as a not for profit which is a business when you're -- very different. It from saint -- percent net. You know if we want good and not for profit hospitals in Massachusetts we also won the best talent to make sure there will run just as if they were a for profit. And so. You know that's gotta be taken Condit is running a hospital in the business and it's a tough one margins are tough they do enormous amount of good work they get benefits by being not for profits that were becoming."

" We already there she's Martha Coakley she's the attorney general take a brief break them back with your calls -- 6178221969."

" Oh -- like to generally speaking with -- human -- and Massachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley on Boston's. Evolution."

" You Margaret gently want to break out up to -- the tunnel let me give you might question sure."

" Due to the fact that there herald my treat people last week that it would two reasons one. The man had three opponents in the primary -- she Martha Coakley would not approach this subject it was hands up dabble."

" He that there -- campaign -- because she needs the Menino machine can be held in that like a I'm -- minutes they'll."

" hopefully you can still hear us you know I can hear you you know I I contain exactly what happened because we made an announcement and might headquarters that I had several endorsements the Teamsters the IVW's -- Harold was there and herald reporter. Who I've worked with before came up and -- can I ask a few questions about. This issue the email I talked to work for several minutes about it and then the article to my mind it was totally distorted. And then got picked up as the record for The Herald that its editorial whatever that I've balked at getting into this investigation I was avoiding it. And so from that fact which is untrue they went to speculate with several people weighing in that oh it must be because I'm. You know joined at the hip with Mayor Menino or where -- I mean no I don't let the facts get in the way of the stories the facts are that I said to their reporter. This is a public records issue right now. They may request for public records they didn't get what they wanted in the -- globe this is that they are these this was picked candidate. Milo clarity is in use and asked for you know public -- request. They didn't get what they wanted war they got back -- emails and they thought they should've gone and they said. We wanna go to the -- we want our criminal investigation that is. Now the proper route is for secretary Galvin. Because he has jurisdiction over public records to make a factual determination was there a violation of it find out he said he came right out front and center I'm gonna do an investigation. On this in determine what happened and we're gonna find out. He can and referred to me or I still have the ability should it reach to the emergency level where we think they should be criminal investigation. I jump in on that. But that's exactly what I told the world and it became -- just."

" I love -- that was that it defense -- my newspaper in defense they reportedly was just event yeah I think what the big things in that story that it. Maybe did not. Look well for you and it was in the entity -- I saw the integration with -- was not mine where you says something to the effect of well you get a lot of these kinds of complaints in the course of the campaign and people may have political. Reasons for pursuing them and I think that was legitimately reported this story and that and that put a it looked like Hewitt as saying this is just a political scrum fight."

" Archery and weirdness that's why I answer people's questions and careful when I answer them. And in an -- reporter wants to make headlines were completed into a story. You know that's what do you think elected officials are cautious because we get. You know there's that there's -- story they wanted to print which was that I was and offices -- it was totally unfair. I said. I don't know I don't know that she was totally unfair we'd go after headlines -- Ohio working on that somebody else tries to headlines is somebody else I and I understand that too but people reading it don't know that and they see a headline and it was -- and here. What I said was I get letters like this all the time to open a criminal investigation right and it was from. Three opponents in a race the story had just broken secretary Galvin was already talking about taking a look at it. In it was like well are you an open at a grand jury investigation is now -- as he opened -- That was the toll and the nature of the question and -- we get these requests all looked and we do this in a way because I am very careful and cautious about people's criminal rights and -- Integrity in his never said we're not gonna do better than. It's not the primary oversight."

" Overseer reduced and you couldn't apparently even if -- that he was an interest in pursuing yet could pursue."

" independently looking where you just it was not governs on it's it's not timely now because I'm not gonna duplicate what he's doing it we have in the past either he refers it to Los. Or we get other information sure we can we can do whatever we want to win that respect if we think there's reason to do it does not but this does not. A dead body. This is not this is serious. And it needs to be investigated and it requires a forensic exam to find out what happened where their emails where did they go."

" That will be done in -- but we're good now we should talk for a mother lets face it we gotta talk to myself that I do I think this is the -- work."

" In and she's a good report I think it's fair to say for the parents perspective is certainly fair game for them to speculate about why you might be doing something that wasn't like she pulled the sign of is she in -- easily report which is senate and I think that's affair --"

" I think she took it out of context Marjorie and I stand by that and -- you know I'll stand by that's Biden -- free market we have the First Amendment."

" This cyber crime lab thing you're doing isn't that exactly the kind of thing that would have the expertise to do with the kind of analysis you're just describing needs to be done on what happened of these emails that disappear yes. And does that males have the ability to do that."

" The the nice thing about a forensic exam whether it's -- by us or. A private person in the in technology and you can imagine. You have a place like fidelity or people who depend upon this there are plenty of folks who know how to do this and you do it. And you can tell what's been -- you can go back in seeking the real question is can you recovered easy notes and you say there were emails there can you recover them. And and they will do it and they won't have any answer and then secretary Galvin will make a determination that there is a violation of the -- are not."

" And then determine whether it's -- it is there a better. I understand that there's criminal and civil violation almost as very quickly and this is the fact of the racing of the documents in and of themselves and of themselves. It clear violation of law. You can't erase. Emails when your in the position the Michael comedians I'm not saying what the motive is annoyed if this criminal ignored difference in a burden they say he's anal scene just trying to clean up this stuff but. The the very fact of the racing which is not dispute is a violation of law. Only if they are public records if they're public records that's part of what this determination is whether the erased items republic of -- hey speaking of criminal law for a second you or prosecuting. Richard fatale who obviously uses them allies of sell the may see his -- this is in the -- just yesterday Martin Weinberg says that he is the first person to -- ever to face criminal charges for failing to register as lobbyists since -- history his lawyer also says -- is also the first -- in -- history -- be criminally prosecuted -- campaign contribution violations under -- basically -- selective prosecution on -- and the evidence -- would -- is -- never been done before one -- factually right. And if he is fashion right then how he argued that it's not selective prosecution well."

" I Jim this is just been argued those of the papers in court it's been argued before a judge it's a matter before John again so I'm not gonna comment on it. We made our position clear we we don't believe that's truly believe we've been fair in doing it but I can't get -- to --"

" Legal argument is the fact the facts are not I don't think her art. The facts are fair game has there ever been a prosecution. Of someone former -- register as lobbyists or. The campaign contributions violated."

" I know -- and it's certainly not my tenure and I don't believe and I can't say for sure but I'm not aware of any in the recent future recent futures to recent past. Where that has happened. I do not believe that assuming that you can jump to the conclusion that therefore this is unfair I mean it's anywhere around right for so long nothing's been done."

" We're looking at a situation and we're gonna use the tools stated to go after this is all hypothetical so now during the break and you and Marjorie this the Scotia. Viral load on civil -- what does before the break that there's a very important question I noted -- I just industry yes and I -- restaurant yesterday Martha Coakley."

" Are you with the stuff in other states in which are you know it's not. Well I don't -- The -- that is."

" No you don't like -- for now I that reasoning can I go beyond yes or no answer I would like to campaign to make marshmallow peeps that that candies so I don't have offered at a piece I'd get he -- on top of actual figure that. I think we should be that the united Charleston issues for -- marsh I."

" is something I mean with totals from Surrey. And I mean nobody who is ever allow a marshmallow -- to cross their --"

" Is entitled to represent -- in any capacity. As they -- wrote an older person a US senator nothing about that. Junior so buying your -- the regular iPod -- a -- thank you very much ever freeze some but the in the -- doesn't which don't know what in the -- gentlemen -- go away. She's Martha Coakley she's the attorneys don't come -- couple more questions from you and a couple from us for -- knotted the -- can."

" Now like to generally speaking with the human Marjorie and Massachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley on Boston's. Take --"

" I've just got to separate the attorney general mark. -- and Margery -- continue or shorter."

" I just dancing debuted at and I hate -- more code we have been asked the we have not played the song of the day for the attorney general play influence to get her opinion. And Jim of course thinks that debt which is just on different justice of brief break in -- look at that's the cause you rankings that this is today. Blue channel paparazzi like aria. It was performed by nick Littlefield at the celebration like for and I actually present -- I -- I don't know it's just a few are changes Everett got. And I heard it."

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" Okay when he thing Martha -- well I think that nick is a very good lawyer up. This no -- I know nick personalities that ran I consider him a different. I think he has a very good voice he has an amateur voice review any singing -- talks on an it was a very if you were there it was a personal and heartfelt he's writer."

" An ordinary and much she's much replied that she has a great lawyer amateurs on tough song went to get the heart and soul were and it and -- tolerant."

" Before we get back to the -- does have a couple of very -- things in the Senate from we try to -- image during general front public option. Where are you and -- What -- are you on the spot and it favor of it and if Barack Obama get elected to the United States senate. And Barack Obama says hey -- senator Coakley. It's the best I can do akin to public option I can't even get through the body you know surgery and I need you to vote for something that doesn't include it. Don't worry we're gonna do this will build on it someday you'll to a public option what is their room now. No meaning you would not you would not vote for your health care bill does not include public option."

" At this stage Marjorie wants is you know users you know I was close to and well. -- I tell you why one -- because it's not that on dogmatic about I think on the owners and public corruption mean I think this for a and so we've got these polarizing terms that the Brazil and against -- and forward -- panels greased up on on. What are the reasons. We need a strong in a viable public option is -- We have people insured Massachusetts we have this high rate of costs that we have not under control. Unless we are able to bring some reasonable way to have competition to bring costs down and I believe right now that a viable strong public option is the way to do it. And we're not gonna get health care reform in in it's not just because we've got people who are."

" Uninsured or underinsured this is for."

" Asked if we don't people -- insurance reckoned -- to just clarify your position he can't it's -- in your mouth and essentially said this you can't see a circumstance. In which you would vote as a senator for health care affordable did not include apple."

" Let me output and you guys hit this apricot yet on what I do think. That ultimately we need to look at a strong public option will bring that I think this is also something you can do in stages. -- I think that Massachusetts is -- that way we got everybody covered now we're dealing with it you know Syria autumn with the I know this thing in terse deceased and said I know directors and is now called."

" They hit that they did it they didn't do it in stereo autumn because they says there's no cost control text in this -- not completely covered us to detect plaque covered the several 100000 people didn't have health insurance and is virtually no cost control. In this bill we did -- matches since we didn't do the hard part. Because essentially Barack Obama says iPhone does -- saying a minute ago the hard part is cost control public option -- what brings cost control yet is that numbers thing."

" Yes on. But one of the reasons in an. That people are concerned about the public option is the fear that okay right now the public option and then Harvick increment the -- whenever it is. But eventually because. The employers will have no reason to keep us more expensive plans and will all wind up in the public option -- no competition that's a legitimate concern people half."

" Well I know it's a concern it is one that needs exploring but that's like saying you know we've had these discussions about auto insurance. How come you you all think -- auto insurance competition will work that's great consumers get to choose there's always going to be people who will want to die you know the Cadillac. Health care insurance is going to be other people who will say hey you know what I don't need all those for rolls on single I don't have kids whatever and so you allow for. The establishment of different kinds of coverages for different kinds of needs and yet there will be employers who will say. You know these are the options that are available this is what we can afford but -- the option is if we don't do that. We have this upwards violent costs. That you are Blue Cross and Blue Shield in whatever you have now in infecting -- it's totally unsustainable and so we have to do something and I think that's the best way to do it. And I think that unfortunately. People are afraid of it because it's so complicated and it's something their anger about jobs and mortgages and losing the mall. Health gears and -- people get very rightfully so concerned about. And I think the Democrats to some extent of lost control of this argument if that Republicans come in and scare people that. We're gonna have crazy dent panels and you know that's ridiculous and we need to get this back on track about what this is about is about. Affording good competition and quality healthcare for everybody not just in Massachusetts but in this country they're from Chelsea wrong with the attorney general -- will Martha -- welcomed there."

" Coakley ideals tell us right now."

" It's the Hyatt corporation. Violate Massachusetts. State law or not."

" I can't tell you right now is that we're looking at. We -- it's under review and that's why. I never make a rash judgment I look at the facts and we're looking and it's I can't give you -- but nobody actually knows. Not right this minute as we get a look at facts. And white it's got."

" Personally yeah yeah question it's a big issue."

" she didn't volunteer I asked the question she says she's investigated and."

" Well okay -- blame you bet."

" And NJ -- acclaimed dance and what do let's let's resolve the question John progressed in your with the Attorney General Martha --"

" Hello how quickly these. A quick question now -- works project in maps and their in the court of researching case law they're discouraged -- not restricted from using any online service. And it seems like at a time on the court to roll back the last thing you wanna do -- them manually check in books. Or even be prone to error so you know anything about like western somebody's -- subscriptions date. He used what most other states to use."

" I I don't I have a quick yes though that if you're a judge -- extra careful as some of the attorneys that I know who thought very. Carefully about the law is that there is a greater margin of error by using online services they should be used to Jack when you've done your research. But there's still something very important to clear for judges to make sure that the clerks are reading the cases. If shepherd arising correctly that looking at the whole thing not just with -- summarized it was put on line. So my guess is that's part of it it is it cost saver in the end but real legal research still involved books are."

" And even a querying. Aspect that it it's seems like will be much more almost like Google in. For searching for for legal information."

" Well into starter search perhaps and I can't speak to what individual judges require of their interns but. My guess is it has to do with the integrity of the research and went -- the judge does -- doesn't require."

" Martha Coakley but it John thank you your goal attorney general -- thank you -- take your time. And we will -- will -- I'm glad you're on a report to the poem yes -- don't write it down. Marshmallow peeps yeah. On that front I was gonna write the Palm Beach in cynic is such as the period jockeys and -- it's just you know while yes and yes and Marjorie wrote -- once was an attorney general from actually so now before we go just you know when we come back regalia back to Paul Kirk we're gonna get back to quiet but we will talk to -- runs on state represented who's the lead sponsor of the -- for an -- as they -- which -- Margery -- is in favor of the attorney general is against that I will break the time we come back right after this with I'd -- newsreader and nineties excellent the."

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