10/29/09:MGH Assailant's Attorney

" Michael Grant -- tended to --"

" The officer who -- the doctor from her own patient is being called a hero by that doctors friends and family."

" was inside the Mass. General building in Boston yesterday when police say. The security guard with so. Wireless to the man he shot also very surprising that the two never even met and that it took this tragedy for them to finally crossed paths as the shock of it all begins to settle over this tree lined neighborhood a family with Ford children -- a father -- Sierra. A couple blocks away at family apply only go out who shot first hero to save another's life. Wrestles mixed emotions that 33 year old security guard who will win accidentally stumbled on his neighbors stabbing at psychiatrist in Boston Tuesday. Apparently never met first hero before just so happened he'd been trained to be what's called a special officer. Doctor ash street to Rosie eight husband says it's speak hardly go shopping carts here to adapt. His wife is a life and recovering well now as for what made that 37 year old parts heroes snapped. Its friends. Attorney hints it may have had something to do with the legal matter he was involved. -- news or something."

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" War it's just people are just so determined. Obama remarked the -- as far as Martha Coakley is concerned everything went wrong yesterday. Everything went wrong because there was a citizen with a gun who was not. A uniform wearing active duty law enforcement official. And the citizens did not wait Ford authorized government help they engaged in self help and unfortunately. We don't have laws that banned all citizens from carrying guns because Martha -- support a ban on all citizens. In the city of Boston carrying handguns so party just it was a disaster she did a much happier. From a policy standpoint if the stab -- were alive and the doctor were dead. So. If you have been surprised by this this is I guess it's no surprise that gets of people concerned about the gun board but the conspiracy theory part. Jim is on 969. Good morning Jim you're on the air."

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" Oh I see did this or attorney Perillo. A great thanks for joining us I appreciate you I joins united attorney for the families of who you represent."

" I've been quoted and I called. I own. Cable -- currency for this -- years it was friendly with them but. -- Used as if I were represented the."

" That was my -- so you're not -- does not -- it's intermission because I'm in determining exactly that has been assumed that I understand that right. You and I'll -- hand in hand and."

" And I've not been authorized to make any comments for the week and wondering what's the percent of and they told me to say that if anyone requests comments that they have them."

" Let me ask you this I was sized surprise you play the audio of your statement thank you let's -- for joining us here in 969 Paulson talks we said that this isn't over. I think I thought it was over or I hoped I should say it was over that you had a supports the situation at someone's mental illness. That brought about this tragic circumstance why isn't over."

" This -- yeah this is necessarily over because. Yeah an ongoing case there's still a question that you. I'll have -- limited and we can get past the morning. The loss of their father and husband. And do they wish to continue that other ongoing cases and an immediate stay maybe they would only."

" But the ongoing case your part -- is some previous legal matter or do you mean the case."

" I think having having nothing to do the shooting itself."

" Exactly exactly so as -- as far as you know from me and not what's -- specific to any east to this. To fact she may have regarding the family far as you know there is no liability issue here. No one's talking up pursuing it regarding the shooter who stepped in and -- like the doctor."

" Now that hasn't happened and that's talk about that with the family. Not knowing that I would or would not represented them in in any potential future litigation. Right now the concept of any other litigation. Is beyond them they're beyond what -- shoots from the UB idea of even continuing with the previous litigation. It was something very difficult talking --"

" And and quite frankly for the sake of our conversation it's irrelevant whatever was happening legally. Before the you know he walked in that doctor's office -- completely unrelated as as as far as what we do moving forward but would play your own audio because. I think explains why I have some questions maybe can help clarify and I appreciate again you calling us is is James -- family -- Not for the Stanley itself this is in the --"

" Isn't there a way to sort of do. Someone like. -- hero without having to use deadly force. It's it's a tragedy all around and the story's not over."

" I don't see why you bring up the issue of how to subdue him if not in the context of and therefore legal questions about the subduing are going to."

" The big question that was absent muted which isn't -- Exactly and honestly admit I don't remember the specific purpose because I was asked a lot of questions lot of orders. So. Asking me what I thought about that situation. Again as far as I knew -- and appreciating that he is a large man. I can deal with the concepts of you need to be shot. I I I disagree with the philosophically. As far as you know pragmatic of that situation. I understand. He had need to be shot he -- it needed to be shot. He may have needed. To be shut to encourage. -- need to be shot that."

" well I'll Heidi is that what that your view philosophical concern the aggressor yeah."

" Because it is in in general I'm actually someone who doesn't have a problem. Where that problem. Since we don't know and so I -- do we keep getting that is separate discussions say it's it's really know what I -- do -- But it's it's the aspect of the force which I personally think is well again I'm not speaking for the simple."

" And tasted -- in a completely and we appreciate that we don't fight it out I will tell you that many of my it was his reaction is. When you walk up or when you hear screams and guy is stabbing a woman to death and the guy stands up and he's got the night and he's not putting it down. The notion of grouping shots are I'm gonna win the guy I mean you're gonna shoot him at whatever part of his body and get a bullet into OI."

" Actually I I would think it'll and I understand the need for now judgment because you don't have time to debate. Let me into the episode fifty and should not -- him. I can appreciate the immediacy of debt issue. But it was well -- has been hearing. Chew the body multiple times don't sit in the hat."

" Well that's and that brings it pulls off the -- has got something specific -- help us with. Because there's a lot of speculation going on as far as you know did your clients know. Mr. -- on the shooter before guest you know before they encountered each other in the past that on the."

" Well not not as far as I'm aware that seems to be a coincidence. If you coincidence also happen via post them the way it was informed of this tragedy. I was a coincidence that so I was there are you sort of de facto by just geography. In previous you know exposure to the -- and legal matter. Has been dealing with certain. Legal questions but done to this just a couple questions as --"

" In the legal matter that union that you're talking -- previous to the whatever legal issues we have going forward. Did involve the doctor herself now."

" It didn't involve the doctors didn't involve anything to do is it's any aspect of medicine or medical treatment --"

" and that's why I think it's you know it's it's just one of those as part of this the story in the sense that there's a broader story does not specific to what happened in an office. Yes two days ago one last question do you happen to know mr. going. I just because it's both in -- it is as you said it wasn't -- was reading well James Perillo thank you so much for joining us and for offering more permission more context these quotes. I truly appreciate it and budget the that you helped enlighten listeners. Thank you so much 672 to 1969 pound that it's time for Verizon Wireless -- that was the attorney for the it's person who was stabbing the Doctor Who was then shot by. Appalling to own I can't I don't know another common victim of the shooting. I don't wanna com. The murderer because the person you stabbing his fortune is still alive so it's that that's I apologize for the odd. You know these sorts of words in the clumsy choice of words I just -- trying to keep things accurate here here's my prediction. There will be a lawsuit. -- to -- a conversation you heard everything James Prioleau had to say. My prediction there will be a lawsuit by the family. Was there a setup is this just a coincidence. These peace superstar approximate 5 morning news coming up in just moments on 969 Boston -- Michael ground. Wednesday's tended to. I don't parent. Yeah. -- Our friend of the family of talking appalling -- ideology here yesterday I predicted there'd be lawyers involved just heard from Jim reload the lawyer for jay -- but not the family. Oh stunned watching out -- if I'm wearing is -- CDV video voice done because he's so well is you know is he on the line TV are you there."

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" Legitimate from the shirt you're wearing lately yikes calm but it."

" I'll let anyway. I was surprised some of the reaction you're getting from your viewers. In folks reacting to the show suggesting that there is a balloon boy like conspiracy. In the shooting can you share."

" I was shocked to wallow conspiracy theory that you'd never know and and and turn up but. The idea that these two were from -- and how could they not have known each other than reading it like a street and not. And and the idea that this -- what to Dellucci and there's a legitimate question here at the way to ask it which schedule but you know what what -- do when there with a -- wasn't working and why was the in the building a that could be it could be out hunger in one million are already there and investigators are asking those questions obviously."

" Let our largest and are up one obvious one as the Boston Globe Democrat reports today they share the fifth floor with other hospital dental and medical research opposite. To -- go to the dentist. But they don't but then people in Boston are asking BB in this is like got a -- Boston."

" What -- you haven't gone going to the dentist to the doctor anyway what's he doing chair and -- not gone on the streets anyway."

" I think vehicle lights and -- I mean it's the widget and an angle that is vitally on the list. To become a Boston Police officer. If you're hiring -- a couple of vacancy to open up. If he won't opt out that he moved down but all the benefit of these they dropped me what we part folk art. I of course been public that -- that there are judgment and nowhere it went -- because he showed a clear head. He does exactly we're supposed to do. He points the gun a bit and it has drop your weapon. I don't button so any doubt what you. Have to do all he doesn't turn and run he doesn't train ticket out pops the guy."

" Did you hear our exclusive interview -- rule here on any time Boston -- the attorney for the night for."

" The idea -- respect to woman even an awkward position sure but I don't know those optical disagreements. -- not the least -- which Google want to -- us it's not like you line up right away. You've been brought him he -- block a weapon at them and puppet show. Not stroke would've been neat about. It -- you're trying to block you have a drop."

" We're talking to BB five bucks to buy a morning news and you know this is what things always kills and people talk about shootings at lightning -- him on -- elbow just below the -- on Google and if everybody gets out alive except the bad guy. Good thumbs up I don't I don't look at the bullet ricocheted off a bit and I want the woman. You know or a doctor alive and want the guy with the night dead everybody went."

" Out somebody -- stated that -- is no protocol for how to deal with a guy the united but I is that accurate stopped him. That's -- what every you have to do you take him out I -- to meet the bullet that went into his head is the epitome of the natural."

" Exactly here is the attorney for people in this interview James -- which once again he's the attorney who was helping jay -- hero with a up previous legal issue that's not represented the family or anybody in the this shooting case at all here it was just few moments ago on ninth tonight."

" He -- need to be shot commitment to be -- He may have needed. To be shot -- parts. Did you need to be shot."

" And that's all it always goes DB somebody uses force for good cause and a good outcome and the local nut jobs or start asking while the judge is so much force. Labor force you're using -- today the -- strawberry force day."

" It's certainly it's reminds me an awful lot that keep up the New Hampshire over the top lethal to any. And you know he backed featured the top and back -- world and it just happens to be advised -- there. For whatever. -- you know. He picked up the ability he took the kid that was that in mind how and then people would respect -- forever but it all. I probably save -- I -- no question. He did its statewide events such cute is that should individual tax yet."

" So why in this my last SUV because you know the viewers a box when he five and you know Boston why is there this almost knee jerk assumption that if somebody uses -- force. Regardless of how good to us are good the outcome they immediately become the suspect why."

" One people seem too many movies ourselves included but people seem to think everything is in slow motion and people can do you know he can -- initial during the -- drop in the battle there they're looking at them into Ohio and -- it doesn't work. And people yet they don't understand it how quick and I'll bang bang partner pundits in this situation was. You know these coincidences personal -- In the befriending him you don't about it is streaked over from there."

" No no idle but it's but and then again it's surprisingly -- I'll go someplace. In the all -- right over here are your kids go to -- and I know -- you. -- the people and it sounds are very well. Likely. Are you the problem here you know the problem is DB -- in the solemn balloon boy. -- Hopes -- hoax turns 11 of some -- story turns out to be a hoax 99 times it's just life but that one hopes he still hopes industry fed for another five year."

" You remind you of the legal -- story that I just referenced by the new manager -- not. People still think up there that the top. Exploit working -- All that out so the cop could have Kenny they cannot -- is -- But people actually believe that I mean there are people out there that will never believe. And seeing is what it means and you don't want to bring the job -- by the smoke questions -- I know it thank god this guy was where he was when he won thank god that you have the brain and is dead. To do what he did and we got all the better or I mean I want it is a -- for one reason and one reason only. And that it -- get this guy was there with -- he snapped a judgment."

" And you know be be no one's doing a a victory lap no one -- way to go guy everyone -- for the family of the knife. -- patient because he had a mental illness he was trying to have treated they feel bad that this cop or not a cup this security guard who by the -- keep things like he's got he spent a summer. Working as a pop in Provincetown yoga -- so I mean it's -- does not like it's this -- seasoned veteran. You guys who had never use lethal force before."

" You're tickets to people on bikes -- this is not a meat and you know my favorite. The guys that we had the budget these commitments that only god knows what really happened is that instead bad guys. No idea what was going on he was so far. On his head at that point you get shot and didn't -- your -- robbery at -- happened. Here he would go to."

" So idea last. Last prediction from UVB 535 morning news every morning 530. Or so. Is -- five -- is till nine will the family of the mental patient. Sulu. Thus -- the the shooter for taking him out."

" I you know what I -- Not I don't know you're inspected the third court they look at everybody who's. I really hope not in this case. I hope that they do I Obama on the jury also -- I hope not by the way you know lots tomorrow at 830 to my very big screen guard ignored."

" We will be there we will miss that much about -- BB showing that kind of gentleness of spirit that night K then makes him such a charming is like the Peter -- of television yes there'll be a lawsuit and I predict that the attorney James Perillo he deserted as I've -- he will be part of it that's my prediction he said I don't I don't this is -- my opinion. He he laid out his facts laid -- his case and I appreciate it that's just. And that's what my gut is telling me 6178221969. Pound that is except for Verizon Wireless customers Michael Grant Michael Graham. These tended to my B six. Boston com."