11/4/09 David D'Allesandro

" Listen to your brother and Margery -- minus six."

" In studio by daily dose under the former chairman of Hancock who devoted himself pro Bono. To study this disaster can be read about this morning in the Boston while the MBTA not problems David thank you for being with us -- here. Get just the highlights and how depression we went along --"

" Well I I I don't think you can solve problems -- you know exactly what they are right and and the governor asked me and I have never met the governor before but he asked me to. Spend a few months studying this problem and he asked for frank assessment which he received Friday night which was published in report. At this morning that the three major points are one the idea that the MBTA could be self funding. Was a promise that could never be fulfilled it was the wrong wrong headed idea to begin with. The -- expenses that they incurred many of which you couldn't help her have have caused them. To be much deeper in deficit and and went by. So what they did is -- exchange for that because they're forced to balance a budget under the law. They financed their way. Over the last eight years to balance that budget. Now that meant they made less that debt payments and in the past which puts us much further at that point forward. So the debt and deficits coming forward white. --"

" Let's check register myself on just what's clear on this one point that means that the that the fares themselves don't toward they've had to borrow in this state is bail them out to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars which means essentially for better or worse people all 351 cities and towns helping to subsidize -- that none of."

" Or description that's absolute wreck because they also subsidize the sales tax. That the new sales tax also has all of -- goes. 5% one penny. -- Of the original sales tax goes -- Yeah southern financial trouble what's the second commotion that the second problem is that the with the debt itself is gonna causes tremendous problems once forward. And terrorism it will pay for it. And and third. Because they have been. In such structural deficit had to borrow they have not been able to invest in the system in any shape manner or form that we would consider acceptable from. Reliability standpoint and safety stamp. And when I mean by that is. If people worry about why the train's late snapped. Not usually because some driver. Has been -- that's good but it's usually because they have to slow many of the trains because an occupant but -- means it's."

" look -- talk -- that my the contribution which I'm sure you'll not welcomes I don't initiative called been called -- review additional -- from Ralph Nader called unsafe at any speed listen to your own conclusions here 51 projects class -- I'm quoting is a danger to life or limb. Of passengers and or employees and you say there's a globe cites an example. My hometown a Cambridge the Red Line between -- wife and Harvard station there's this from water leakage problem. Quote in some areas fell as the globe professors are corroding and the tracks are moving out of alignment the report states presenting quote the possibility. Of trying to -- if I'm going home on the red light -- flight to -- what I don't mean this in the sensational say your prayers why should I ride that train."

" We you bring up -- a couple of probably most important points one is that's not my conclusion conclusion report that is actually. Inside report of the MBTA. Themselves just quoting them yes I did not make that up. That is there own words -- report which we found in all of our work. And when we investigated it it was clear that that these kinds of problems."

" Exist would you run a service would you get on the train today. And ride from a park street on the Red Line. To telecommute there's not a camera in the studio but I have to say David D'Alessandro who knows how to make tough decisions for decades is thinking of what's the answer the question."

" I would not ride that line today. That's why heavy statement is not which request -- it was a day that I. That young might agree line kind of person here and if you're above ground and the trolleys. You probably okay going at least ten more under grants this area you know where I safety experts were taking exact with the MBTA. People have to set up in dollar capital request. But there are many many safe safe sections of the 280 good -- rely -- need to understand. What they feel what is the Syrian what is. Mean one of the great problems is they are not investing. Enough money into the actual vehicles something what can understand. The vehicles themselves right they're supposed to last. Around 25 years what is useful like it's they're carrying some cars. On the Red Line. Forty years already. And host of the maintenance on these lines at half life which is all have here's. Well they often don't do the the maintenance seventeen. When it has 25 your half a point -- your full life. And are laureate forties met with to a second -- clinical and maintenance sometimes -- happen to Paris to the Ottoman anyway five years. So across the train operators have to slow everything. --"

" So even if you just they avoid the safety issues which I would are you're pretty dramatic in this report your acknowledgment a minute ago I admire your candor about riding that line it the best case senator is is no accident in your slowed down getting to your to your destination I mean for. I asked James always about a month ago the outgoing secretary of transportation as good as the guy's gotta get the meetings on time commute depend on the T. To basically do your job and in another great moment of candor he said I'm not sure so speak the average listener out there that we're gonna get the people who don't ride the Tebow who pay taxes and the second to the Angeles -- they make an informed decision. About what to do in terms of speed safety what I mean they're not to read the 35 page report where they do."

" Our feeling is that. All of these issues need be raised to a point where the public. And that legislature and frankly the governor's office understands how decisions are being made which decisions being made for safety purposes which -- more importantly. Have been decided not. To go forward with funding so people understand okay they're not gonna fund that project I'm -- gonna make a personal decision women do -- you can't make that decision election now."

" I had no idea. I casinos doing this until today I certainly didn't -- it we should be clear to people to that there was -- funding decision made in 2000 -- support in the -- that by the legislature to change the funding. Which basically -- deferring a debt. That's one of the reasons for in this than this this this mess is well correct."

" Publicity that make that decision that the T ultimatum because legislature forced them to balance the budget against. Revenues that they were never gonna see how he's totally blame here in Dallas on that's silent now I think the blame everybody. I think we blame everybody. Including us the public as well as the government for simply not. Being transparent offered not demand enough."

" Okay it was at Carolina because I'm not clear and you would know this certainly better than I. T under. The T employees can retire and carrier early ages. After like twenty years get full medical for life. Get a big huge chunk of their penchant for life and inclined to work this that the state another. A capacity in and collective more money from the state there. That's part of the problem."

" Well -- they're actually change that I'm. The new reform legislation. As it's different at all new employees now have to go to the state level 55 years old and 25 years minimum service. Although the T employees at a bare. Are grandfathered into a 23 years. As as you point out but the only retire about sixty or seventy people a year. At that at 23 years so it's a bit of a fallacy is that affect their series of mess over there they're quite fast."

" It is on any private company -- public public Ron -- would would be. Bankrupt today."

" So there is gonna need Duma where are gonna need new money at some point whether it's tax increases more tax revenue or fare hikes that's inevitable is -- not."

" We -- just operates. The way it operates two -- Without addressing all of these. Safety issues and all of the on time issues. That there is -- enacting our revenue and and one can argue all they want about trying to cut expenses but it takes X amount of people the -- place. Right it's just that it is the nature of the beast and you can cut maybe a few hundred people. In total but you still have to have in order -- such a vast system. Thousands of people on they have about 6000 people that."

" So this is David also -- you all known from days gone by as chair John Hancock and obviously the they have the people who brought us the marathon for all intents and purposes for years and years and years and years Boston Marathon. Give us the the rap here the 32. David Alessandro executive summary of what she issued this morning at 5 AM."

" What we issued was a report that the Governor Patrick asked for very frank assessment. He he never interfered in week out -- The T is extraordinarily expensive on a per passenger basis probably more expensive than -- in the country be canceled. We are far too much in debt and is now. Threatening our our safety as well as liabilities."

" One less thing for ego of the what's the that is horrible teacher right now the basic for his. BT Ferris says. Okay of the -- dollars how much of that is actually paid for. I mean what portion that is being subsidized Laporte -- I'm sorry -- what part of the actual cost of the raw Islam trying to say is paid for by the fair and what part is paid for it's about them. 60% -- fourth subsidy. So essentially that ride is costing us we'll do the math that -- like three dollars and sixty cents as some and the the the tour that can the commuters -- into and we're -- and the rest and that's when Whitman and it's all --"

" You must question -- priority York frank announced this year."

" Had we had any frank analyses of of the tees and into -- David and sections they they never looked at how one. Set of issues led to another. And they let us in very deeply into places that no one has actually been before so we could see in a relationship between the money the debt."

" Safety and remain a consistent in the first comprehensive plan that we -- in the MBTA yes."

" One last treasure for go to fund go to the summer -- for you arrived. -- David goes on -- spectacular work and agree I have to say great public service thank you so much."

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