11/04/09: Jonah Goldberg

" Michael Grant weekdays tended to my. Jonah Goldberg a syndicated columnist national view Fox News superstar. I was stunned when the folks in New Jersey star making an issue out of the guys late in their hands."

" Yeah well I ever go to sign of this -- yet -- might be here. And."

" I've never seen. Running against the fat guy as a campaign strategy in my life."

" Well look you know coming Jon Corzine is -- human to take these as either nasty dude and I think you know there with a -- of elections is suspect or is this trend in the culture. Sort of help not. Being increasingly nasty and condescending. Thinking that everyone agrees with them in their sort of hatred for out of shape and overweight people."

" You know -- Titanic as you looked like you jumped -- little bit last homicide on TV so dull."

" So it. Probably read a lot of people believe they seem to think that it's okay paying. This sort of go after these guys and I think it's. I think it's a mistake but a lot of growth in the state now."

" And I -- I just put it in this. I followed it pretty amazing election night all the way around from the story at the New York through the fat. Jokes in the fact ads in New Jersey impact Imus is on the station was bragging this morning. But someone's in the media saying Imus helped turn it around by having Chris Christie on to talk about his weight. What do you think happened in new in New Jersey -- of the blue list state that was in play and last night and doesn't mean anything for the rest of America."

" Well I think it's a big deal I think that you know what it proven beyond anything else. Is. Comparable issues matter. And that there's a general discontent. Where. Tried and true. Liberal corrupt democratic policies in places like security. I don't think it is there a referendum on Obama I think it might be. The referendum on Obama is them. And what are the cruise which is very dangerous for the White House is that Obama's popularity is simply not transferable. Everywhere Love -- in all of all of but it Obama the popular Obama the popular well. Interactivity. Popular if you can't do anything -- could indicate get the Olympic for the ticket for health care if you can't get the people we campaigned for Reagan moved into major it would Johnny Mac convert. A couldn't he couldn't do everything for the guy. It later if this bag -- third party and been in the race it's entirely possible. And it states that Obama won but fifteen point a year ago bomb that the Republican could've won by over ten point."

" That is the skies are targeted Jonah Goldberg syndicated columnist of course national review as well. I don't. The whole notion that in generally speaking that a guy is an individual persons popularity is transferable has never made sense to me John it's like you when you go. You backing a single day is any of the three women are together there's a Hadi in the middle the slightly less -- next door in the in the the Chris Christie on the other side of the date on the other you're interested in the Heidi because he doesn't wrapper because of ideas aren't selling. I don't see how we can possibly think he's gonna it -- translate to other candidates they can't pick up with ideas nobody wants his ideas."

" Also there is a you know. There's a real and -- of people don't wanna talk about is that people don't wanna say bad things about Obama the poll -- it's the old. And -- you the first black president and being anti Obama is thanks for the mainstream media has gotten this. Really negative connotation of people who were anti Obama get demonized all the rest. But Mike Huckabee might not popular at the polling suggest. -- we got what do we make what do you what time it we're gonna make whatever. We make of the -- the New Jersey Virginia or New York point three. The simple fact is is that there are -- Democrats in the house who districts voted for John McCain in 2008 the twenty senators. In the Senate that states voted for John McCain in 2000. If you're one of those or gal when you're looking which was supposed to have been. Confirmed that they Blue States by Obama's victory in 2008. If you look at New Jersey which is the most among the most reliable. Liberal states in the country. Going in this you know going in the Republican away and you're one of these. Legislators in this swing district it's. Impact I think Obama carried an enormous trouble on cap and trade is essentially debt."

" We're talking Jonah Goldberg the and minority majority leader got a letter in from Republican senators saying yeah we'd like to post. The health care bill so people can see you wanna get on the web etc. And -- he sent back a letter dated. I guess it's Monday. There is no bill to release publicly it does not exist. And then we got the confusing comments that -- he said maybe your maybe not the bill's gonna come out by the end of the year maybe next year. I mean I. I looks to me like the health reform Obama care plan is in all almost reaching room temperature."

" I I think that's right in and the quote you push it to the point in mid term for more go to races become a referendum on -- after -- point and it via a referendum on repealing it. Or a referendum on passing it and I don't think that's good the Obama administration Obama has been more popular than the healthcare plan for a long time about your plan. Have been fairly unpopular for quite awhile. And the longer the Obama administration wanted to Democrats spent all the time talking about cap and trade and healthcare which you know is at stake here that a great deal. Bolton Warrick it will -- that these guys don't really care about fixing the economy and fixing the unemployment rate. "

" John -- you are right on I -- that when I hear you say cap and trade and healthcare reform nodded. Even like just something fixable liked it whatever. It's portable insurance or you can't be turned down for existing conditions in which something people go whatever but when I -- captured -- I hear people without jobs going who in cares. That where where does impact in my life you're with 78 some people are happy with the health -- to begin with but 10% of people have no stake in job."

" But at Alitalia the deficit which is always a weird political issue because it doesn't have is it the deficit -- felt well think people hear about the wanna come to symbolize. A government out of control. Doing things that aren't helping me. Welcome then it becomes a big issue I think there -- a lot of people out there who think that the bigger the deficit gets. The less likely it is. They'll get a job in the private sector. And that's I think Rick is at the amazing thing I think these story of of the political season. Is that the Obama administration completely. Misses the fact that weren't a Perot miles. That these independents went to almost 321 for McDonnell for Christie hopman surged ahead because of the independent. And it everyone's having this problem sucking argument but one -- Republican Party needs more moderate. When an independent and an ability is flat for Republican party's."

" I saw a couple of numbers today Paula pundit had them the GOP margin in Virginia. In 1993. Was smaller for the governor than it was this year. In Jersey they're Republican governor won by one point this year when my four and those are just too. You know. Points on the draft they don't prove anything -- not a trend. But it is insisting that you getting the same kind of numbers or even bigger for the Republicans and you were on the eve of the revolution."

" Yeah I agree I think the Republicans could really over read this and think that they don't need. To have an agenda of their own that they don't need to have good candidates have been McDonnell is a very conservative guy but you would have very good candidate he ran. -- here -- ideas about how to fix the issues they care that people Virginia care about. And if that's -- I don't know McDonnell and upping the model for governing but that the model for getting -- climate and and Republicans need to keep that in mind but they can keep that might have been admitted. -- captured this the centrist independent. Angry you know independent thing. You really couldn't be weeping. Thumping of Obama in important."

" Well no doubt there's any group that has the skills and abilities to screw up that rage -- it's the people who lead the Republican Party and their day."

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" More money touring -- like all had to do was pick a moderate to -- conservatives somewhere in the center ish person. And they're never would have a Doug Hoffman in India Republican sitting there comfortably and than you on election who screwed that up twice the Republicans."

" and let me let's keep in mind that the new York Republican Party. It is you know really --"

" That is true they are exceptionally stupid."

" Big and it -- they seem to be all veterans of you know job is like taste tester -- lead paint."

" It. But that's a good to me that's distort your choice three is give people something they can accept and they will go center right."

" I think. At least in the table if they'd had a credible vehicle for a protest vote and I don't think he's independents -- all of a sudden national review reading conservatives. But that they had just given. Somebody who think we're responsible good candidate I think all of -- taken."

" Here in Massachusetts where we get just a mormons -- Jonah Goldberg got national view syndicated comic you read his column opposite -- my column often. The Boston Herald. We -- looking at Governor Patrick to deceive the sounds familiar Jonah. He's a Democrat a blue state he's polling in the low thirties twenties sometimes the upper teens. He's looking at a three way race an independent -- Republican he's gonna have Obama camp out here to help them out. And I think for the first time because of yesterday he could actually lose that in that scenario."

" Well it probably. I don't know enough about Massachusetts you know politics because for the same reason I don't know about you know the politics and you know -- Do a whole state the right after he."

" But my point is that -- all of us this scenario is very similar to New Jersey. He did in fact you Pat's feeling counting on two things knee jerk party loyalty and a democratic state. And a third party challenge in this case state Treasurer Tim Cahill pulling off enough votes to. Leave the republic the the governor's standing that was a strategy New Jersey to look at failed."

" Yeah well and -- you might you know they're only two presidents who have ever gained. In mid term. You know in the last seven years one with FDR. During the third of the great depression. And the other one was George Bush right after nine elevenths. Normally you'll lose about an average of seventeen seats in the house and a couple in the Senate. In Europe on an in this state races your party suffers and there's -- no way to know what's gonna happen a year from now -- just serve read that they believe he you'd think there'd. This is -- really awful time to be. An unpopular incumbent and a poorly performing state closely tied to the National Democratic Party."

" Absolutely and -- gotta be thinking if your pay them conservative and independent moderate in Massachusetts is always wanted to run against the Kooks. That this is looking back at Goodyear at the state ledge rate level to probably get. Absolutely what what do think what what did you make of the Democratic Party actually funding phone calls for the independent. In New Jersey -- talk about just shamelessly showing your hand."

" That and I wish -- work third -- that come with the Republican but that really makes me queasy. Well when you know Obama was running in the New Hampshire primary last year he's Serb. Two years ago now and you like you know my chief opponent. In this race isn't any person my chief opponent is cynicism. Energetically about you know. Chicago nobody. Else can know -- all wrapped up and look politics of Chicago it's incredible -- by an -- you know a leader of the Democrats rather than that they. They they weren't trying to get people vote for Corzine they were just trying to get. You know people to vote against the other guy is and that muddied the waters. And and and -- go like that about what the war."

" Did you see -- WABC report that governor Corzine did not have a concession speech prepared. No concessions because how arrogant this super rich jerk was he lost. The man that. Republicans conservatives. Independents moderates and seniors. But he didn't he --"

" I he -- a couple of big black vote. Of the."

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