11/5/09 - Outrage of the Hour

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" Other about Patrick today. Pull the plug on a plane and -- you -- in her speech by convicted terrorist his name is Raymond Luke Abbas -- This -- that was one of the founders of an organization called the united. Freedom front. In the united freedom Bryant was responsible. For the murder. 1980. Line Christmas Eve day lead behind three little kids in a white named on and we're hoping to be speak Madonna Monaco. About her husband -- Monaco in just a few minutes. In a year later this steam terrorist organization in the united freedom front. Tried to kill two Massachusetts. State troopers. Any games where all Wii injury and might Crosby. They have since retired from the state police but we have in the studio let us right now two men. Who led the charge along with his widow to shut down a tax Payer funded terror tock. That would have taken place next Thursday at the University of Massachusetts -- and Harris. In the studio with you right now it's Rick Brown he's the president of span. And time need to president of the Boston based Thomas association in the national association please welcome to both you and thank you so much for coming in to talk about this very critical issue. Thanks additional things have consistency and thank you earn it brown I'm gonna go to you first because you're young trooper in 1982. When you heard about this. Not add -- borrow attack on two troopers who came up -- you tell the story because you know much better than I do."

" It was whose 1982. And two nephews in the job I lived in Attleboro Massachusetts. So while I was actually. Working at a carpet at the time and then that was sent back to the scene to help that morning. To at -- and a manhunt. Now line up all Landry who was the great true but I'm great trooper -- up on the road. -- always had this that six cents that something was wrong barreling into the rest area the vehicles in the rest area. Noticed two occupants in the vehicle and I noticed that the you know one of whom was. Obviously -- or some type of media bought EM. Which in nineteen 82 if you asked Tommy Tommy can tell you the same thing 82 I don't think any of our people really had -- In -- at that time. Apparently got to mount Carleton back up which was my cross become to the scene and that. At that time when you removed I believe was king from the vehicle. Those drivers exited the vehicle with an automatic weapon a static fire -- At that time they secured. And believe the suspect king and that held on to him and the -- fled. In and the -- the manhunt was on and."

" And these men he suspects these gunman who. It openly engaging gunfire with Tuesday troopers are members of a terrorist organization called the united freedom front. And that group was responsible. For. The hell bent on committing. And on taking down this country and they blew up buildings all of this country including the Suffolk County courthouse right here in Boston. They committed bank robberies to fund their criminal enterprise it I'm repentant domestic scum -- just like the Weather Underground. It just came a little after the Weather Underground at the same premise that they hit this country they hated law enforcement it military and they wanted to stay."

" They they were our first terrorists that I can remember in my early Korea there was domestic terrorist and and they Arab terrorists to this day. Why this man is even out of jail is beyond me who was one of the leaders of this group. Along with -- who killed in the enters into a film -- Marco and he's doing life in prison. And -- sir I believe did eighteen years two years waiting for his trials of twenty years and supposedly he is out 125 year parole. From prison he should still be in jail him."

" Be -- guy who was convicted of terrorism he was convicted. He blew up buildings. He robbed banks in his group is responsible for the murder of fellow Monaco in the attempted murder Tuesday police -- right here in Massachusetts. I mean it's bad enough that the guys -- living in halfway house and meet."

" While he still on the wing and that's that the bottom line this man still in New England. And took two to even contemplate having him go to our State's university. Two to address students and faculty there. As far as I'm concerned this man's analysis 2004. Which now it's five years later 2009. He's our recruiting mission our Q what he says he has no remorse for anything he didn't you talk to Davy Jones prison Jersey state police -- tell you the same thing."

" And we will be talking is Davy Jones did present and they New Jersey State Police in a few minutes and we also be talking to Donna Monaco. Who is the widow who is -- who is left. Without a father for her three kids on that terrible. Winter morning in 1981."

" absolutely and just to even think to what this man on a a state institution which is supposed to be our bigger our best state institution in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts I mean there were articles in New York. New York New Jersey in the newspapers couldn't believe they remember even contemplated of this -- I have to give our thanks to our Billy Powell is retired detective lieutenant and actually chief -- Cunningham from -- PD. Who went on and champion this last night on me."

" And now and then and what they did. What they did was to make shore. That this guy. Would not be forgotten now the problem Intel media when you weigh in on this because we have talked many times. About how it accessible Governor Deval Patrick has been to police organizations in the state. He has crippled Quinn bill. He has replace police officers making thirty to forty bucks now with her speaking 53 dollars and 25 cents now this is the ultimate kick in the -- to every member of the law enforcement. Here in the state that he knew full well that you that the embers had invited to terrorists to come here are not -- to give a talk on social change. You try to reach him. There are other please organizations tried to reach and -- I know a lot of state troopers and everyone was outraged in Deval Patrick did not back down until I call today that this is gonna be on the front page of The Herald and suddenly now the -- has been canceled. How disappointing is that."

" You taught me well it's beyond disappointing but it it's it's customary traditionally show up when the clique lights -- on an in did their for their moment in time ministers discussed and because this impacts our profession and -- not taken knows that active effort today as a result of ER activities. In your strength in in in your resilience and is not a family what do you know the consequence of the family would have an incredible I --"

" It doesn't do it it is collective you liked and well he was here and Connell."

" Why did what -- What did it come out the eleventh Alfaro -- what the heck are we get people out there on the state to all -- data are trying to influence our young. In and in easily influenced youth and and wonder why we have such problems ZoneAlarm forced -- with these kids have no respect alarm forced whatsoever. Instead raise an -- up and yet it's in the things in the sacrifices that. No quite honestly the trooper's life would have been dismissed -- would have been dismissed that they had. Such disrespect fought for what again I mean I mean some of the things from from the professor out -- and UMass and he is an employee of the state in in somehow he wants to discuss. Why people take different pats to undermining. The social structure in this country in the government I mean it just. It's completely perverted and and I just don't understand it in a time -- the governor is downsizing the budgets of law enforcement community how he would have even consider it. Considered using state taxpayer dollars -- this person come up on how college campus and influence our young teenagers. I would just type nonsense and I -- a -- I Rick's opinion that. You know this is not the more than a recording -- campaign when you -- On these college campuses and you start reaching into the minds of value. And it takes some in the wrong direction and it was very distressed respectful to the new Jersey state -- As well as everybody in this country ministry -- Romanian about state that are subjected to disrupt every day. We risk our life for the betterment -- elect of everybody in the country in yet. Somehow an elected official can can state to us that he didn't know about it that's wrong that's actually positively want."

" I we know -- Eddie Bennett the lead excuse to think he didn't know about the welfare cars and being given out I don't whenever. Bad news and all I had no idea that we -- gonna look use taxpayer dollars bringing terrorists to get a little speech and also changed at UMass Amherst. I don't wait folks pension check out the Boston herald's website. Our tax dollars at work check the pensions. I'm going to US officials that's cool is bankrupting us when it comes -- pension system. These polls. I think it's appropriate to have got like Raymond -- of the author. Come to you -- and I agree with her on the -- and this is the recruiting mission at the susceptible young minds. Asleep in -- just the second last night. The people the -- took -- vote. In the -- Ed let's bring terrorists. To have her as these -- time a detainees. And into the around the bullpen. Both men Amber's voted last night -- moved in cars. Where in al- -Qaeda terror training camps. Then what -- with billions. Then pledged allegiance to Osama bin and having enough problems here with terrorism we just whacko opened fire -- lahood and kill. Twelve soldiers and wounding another thirty. And and by the way folks want those people killed at it was a civilian police officer was assigned to patrol like it did so we terrorists already. Today. The United States attorney at Massachusetts might blocks I don't. Bailed unsealed an indictment against a guy who worked Walgreens and into the mother. That guy with a home terrorist who wanted a day he had plotted to do exactly what happened -- anybody to do it in Natick mall to. So in which we so we have cameras bringing in terrorists and -- have school officials. Mean terrorists who thinking thinking it. According to us I think convicted of being part of an organization that killed police offices around how appalling is this do you."

" I'm into it's it's disgusting it's discussed the thing that these -- the people. That are in our educational system in state of Massachusetts. That they have no respect for law enforcement intent and like the Tommy said tell the eleventh hour. Would would -- went on here this was finally it was finally put to rest because. Wanna tell you right now in New Jersey was comin' up -- force we were going out there aren't forced the protest of the against this against this environment that you're gonna subject our kids that that a pain. Large sums of a tuition to go to our state universities if beings a pain. To have them subjected to this type of a person and if it just convinces one of these young kids these young minds from eighteen to 21 year old. To get involved insult them like this and we're gonna begin with the same problem again. In 201020112012. When. What -- these type a terror groups."

" I just got its expenses and some. Friends of ours if you know what I mean. -- on vacation in Maine and lineup you have an address -- the halfway house debated a campaign visit to Raymond who put us dollar. Can we just -- unlucky lupus does. This is not so lucky because he's not gonna make -- die in the next week delivering a speech to UMass you know why because of the outrage of one police -- I need his daughter Monica and her husband Phil was gunned down in 1981 she had to bury her husband. On Christmas eat."

" you think is forever ruined for her and her kids can you imagine you in because of the terrorist organization. I'm 69."

" Today. A state trooper was shot right here in Massachusetts for -- he briefly tell us an update on his status that trooper I know he was there I imagine -- And I -- when Barack Obama came out in the Eagles abysmal remarks. About the tragedy at Fort Hood Texas that. I think any -- any leader that I know in their right mind would be in to politely it would be thing that."

" Let me first of all just thing again. And the entire Department of the Interior staff for organizing. Just an extraordinary conference. -- thank mine. Chairman and members and senior -- administration officials who participated today. I hear there's. Doctor Joe Madison probe was around and saw wanna give a shout out to back congressional medal of honor winner."

" She would go to the EU. Doctor -- It's disrespectful and -- his demeanor is. Appalling in my argument was he -- and root. To Fort Hood in Robert Gibbs as Press Secretary should it take ignited a conference that was right on the street and watched -- speeches that the president is on his way to. We have had an horrific. Unacceptable tragedy. And in American military base and he is in route there will pick -- this discussion another time in the meantime our prayers -- with that I'll. We get. So irritating. About the way accused soldiers were killed now. That was Obama's reaction and I need -- point of saying. That you don't. If a -- shot in Boston timing you and I have stood outside of Boston Medical Center many nights that week. At 2 o'clock in the morning 4 o'clock in the morning after which -- have you having not seen and mayor -- the please mr. No no actually. Round today it was a state trooper shot in a drug raid at Bristol county can you tell me who attended. The crime scene in the aftermath at the hospital."

" That the kernel colonel was them myself. Most of his command staff. Journalist Steve Matthews who group who oversees the crime -- divisions and India. The US units. And they were on scene and a the thing."

" Proper response or absolutely and commander in chief of the state police along with the union official was then to make sure that cop didn't I gratefully he's okay -- needn't mean."

" The bold move to present the best -- thank god it was the entry team because they have. If vests. A process period than the average best that's out there and it was hit in an in an area where Iraq and he is fine. And the other the suspect did get Arafat several rounds. Before he was he was taken down -- India the entry team."

" We have one word when it gunman who opened fire please attracted and that word is good. Good that's -- days so Monaco. Speaking so much for joining us -- you with Michelle McPhee. -- and -- brown your friend timing he and believe me I heard from New York City detectives. I her new Jersey state trooper is. I've been ringing off the hook the two weeks. About this a horrifying idea that the University of Massachusetts that Ian Harris was -- to bring a convicted terrorist -- cop who led a group that killed -- T here in Massachusetts so we thank you they're taking the time and we thank you if you fight which ended in victory because today. Right before 5 o'clock Deval Patrick in Yunnan -- pulled the plug on the planned taxpayer funded -- talked. We welcome you -- on you Donald Monaco."

" regulation Alan let me tell you the word thank you really is small compared with that many many thoughts and prayers I have for. All of you my extended law enforcement family here why I mean. With Al well the efforts of everyone behind me this wouldn't -- been accomplished. And I think one of the main things that we have to remember is the fact that we as a true -- dignified and well respected. Group that people. Brought him down where that -- that would afford. Behind this governor make the decision he didn't just make up the cup of the please. He gated because we came through and we made it happen and it was because of all my -- family law enforcement and friends."

" In what would ask you Donald Monaco and I know it's it's probably a very sad people memory for you. But we want people to know why we became so outraged by -- knees in the studio hybrid -- in the studio like police offices in New York in New Jersey all over. They've compared the east coast we're ready to join you next week if you plan to travel in cars to let people know how appalling this tax Payer funded terror -- What have been. So -- that it would wanna just to know more realize your husband Phil and tell us a little bit about them and tell us about that awful day in December 1981 when you found out that he'd been killed. By domestic."

" Welcomed my husband who was indeed my best friend and it torturer on expert. He let my almighty I found the true -- my future and it and that person and we had to offer from bank line. And we dated for a few years to realize that we wanted to spend the rest of our lives together in and we got married in 75 and built on together. And then we had three wonderful children he was -- the year in 1979. And completely -- and dedicated his his whole life to. State police and family to the point where it would not guarantees and -- say what's what's more important. Computes the number one. And helping me eat which is black and made because it was willing to actually answer because we both were number one inside he loved to be in this state trooper he loved. Being out on the road. On the road because that's where he met the people that he could be kind to the motorist that was traveling with their families and people rid. -- highways that we travel or the crime that was out there to help protect us he was indeed. A protector and he did the same and hall with his children and they actually had three wonderful children. Five years the fight you'll order for your outside and a ten month old baby when that knock at the door from two very very good but we're troopers. Came and took the baby out of my car -- one let me into the Rahman's. Told me that so had been more and at that -- it was like okay Chinese from -- supper what you know he's been it would eat me eat eat eat it. Art car truck."

" Bringing haven't announced by bullets fired by."

" I didn't. I didn't I didn't and now they said you know no big he's been he's been shot and we have to get to the hospital and you know he can't remember. Back in the eighties not many things were mentioned as they are now you ever heard that word. Ticked -- you never heard the word survivor you heard the way forward widow -- and all happened on the back. And ought to -- Well now all of a sudden I became that person. And I had a family that was with -- state police that were hurting just as bad as violent and no one knew what to do. We archer after the hospital and that's where I found out that he wants to -- He was shot. From a routine traffic stop -- Mattingly programs cited grad. Got out of the car her realize that any -- and it had a car that -- Williams kept out on the passenger's side which. -- always approached that vehicle on the passenger's side. Only in it to this day. Everybody practices -- started. But because a couple of bank he couldn't got an out of the car. Williams struck out opened fire shot nine times related late last been -- cities down on route eighty."

" Out your husband's killer was very close to the man and that name. Is Raymond Luke the boss sir. He was the guy who's now living in half in a federal halfway house in Maine and he was pleaded to speak at the University of Massachusetts nanny and her straight here in the commonwealth. And you. Find out about this when."

" Condit I found out about it actually. Two weeks ago today and I was getting ready because what I put myself or with being honored and I received. On math teacher in the mail that told me he was speaking at this university."

" you know at that you must -- and the bodies because. New York City detectives that colony I was getting -- You know the Nat coalition a police was alerting. I think to what was going on timing -- with me -- you know with the eighties and here in Massachusetts on meet key -- back on Monica are. -- Appalled -- you. Feel the idea that it took pressure. And you know -- newspaper in the skates at the Boston Herald because I call the governor today. I was writing sort of the Boston Herald and I did this with was pleading with you not to let this guy. Take tax dollars to speak in McConnell the Massachusetts. And how the governor possibly. In condone this idea that speaks at the -- And it didn't feel that it took two weeks. A year and pressure from the please union officials and be right now on me. I mean. Feel that it."

" Well it's typical I'm sorry but it's so. Typical of what we have to live with it and it is so typical and thank god that we are on the radio station now talking about. Happy that an event that now is not going to take place. And they not only me but other people that are connected with this this -- that put this strike together. We can now be happy instead -- being -- that hall and another into the widow."

" And that's exactly right people don't understand -- Monaco does not just about one -- Who is innate common given -- that discussion at -- and ours is the idea. That we are so quick. Did disrespect the memories of men like your husband so quick. To -- might Crosby. In his Conrad background and I went and Paul -- In the face slap in the face. Lets you matter you service to the state doesn't matter what matters is our that we. Have a discussion on social change. Yeah all right let me just question on. How he's been repentant domestic terrorist whose group the Weather Underground till the -- and -- don't leave me time neat. Remember that funeral all too well. We -- On the air a two year. -- it probably spent hours talking about cop killers getting pity. I universities in the in genuinely. Possible that we talking about killers. Terrorists getting heat. It is to to New England College children it's."

" I think I think I think something else that everybody needs to realizing that -- one at that crucial factor in this particular issue. It -- you remember back in the database and the Ohio separate. And the man William Kunstler. And."

" But -- fact tot and cat you know what I mean he's faced just turned his red -- ready to her. I wind up."

" I'm telling you and in thirty years ago okay thirty years ago. Forty big welcome back to get into all but the point but the fact is. Back -- and that that respect for that courtroom at that time back in the seventies. What they didn't rise -- and apparently didn't rise and cheery statement they refuse to place their hand on the Bible let me tell you thought that. In deep in September -- February 1986. Eyewitness the exact same thing."

" And I. I keep. On hearing Massachusetts. Witness that very thing two weeks ago. When -- yeah Chris from Gary was locked up and he refused to stand up in a federal courtroom. He because even people who want -- and we are honoring them by inviting him to speak prestigious universities in New England how ridiculous."

" You got it got a real there are there go to these colleges. And getting into the minds of each ya French students. And that's what they're doing their recruiting. -- the key words that every study has got to understand. Although lock the door open Manny although Williams and the world they are re fruity out of our young students. In these colleges. Because these professors are allowing this to happen. And I'm telling you right now I would wanna be a family that lifted New Jersey Virginia I don't care where. Deck where paycheck to paycheck to pay tuition to send my child today University City now. And he would be an educated by terrorists."

" All right let me. Bolster your statements with some facts. Fact this woman you're about to hear talk about how. Would be terrorists from Guantanamo Bay is a retired University of Massachusetts Eddie and expert --"

" They sound like two very -- they would add to our community."

" These things keep eagle didn't have these terrorists from Guantanamo Bay. Moved to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts did UMass Amherst professor her name is not. She called to terrorists from Guantanamo Bay fun guys and she's gonna continue about how did we would be to have."

" Then you're not at all concerned that if these two men were some data come that you're not concerned about that I don't know I would delighted to have them come here I would be. Absolutely thrilled them come here."

" That is a professor. Talking about one time. A detainees being relocated here it goes to detainees into the background that court files I looked at the federal indictment they are. On Qaeda trained there. Gunman who had plans to and they port and some woman is a professor at the school that invited. The founder of the group that marriage has been -- the worst."

" So hopefully today's move was closing it down with not having obviously there. -- woke somebody up. Did you wake up. Somebody up there. Collective. You know like if you'd want a deal and limited and and we welcome people into your lives. But perhaps you better go to another country because. Shame on shame on us for allowing these -- things that happened you know what. I do place my hand up from my part I hate it when my allegiance that being said and I do stay with otter. About trusting god I do it all and I will not take the word got out of my money and I will continue to pledged might might like. --"

" I'm not me not --"

" I'm not that more people more people need to stand up and back up those rights and the rights are our law enforcement officers. And there state gambling members. Better putting their life out there every single day. For you."

" And dot Monaco we are so grateful to have you on the show the only sad news that comes out of the decision that Deval Patrick finally pulled the plug after two weeks of pressure. On the start talking that I won't be able to stand alongside you in protest next Thursday because believe me hired -- Iran for one thing I'd like to be there with you Thursday."

" Well you know up -- repeatedly dinner."

" You and I will be doing. I can -- to become fast friends and literally I was separated at birth and --"

" But you know what you have you have to remember yeah yeah updates you have to give it that at this -- separate people you know you're dealing with -- Not only from major's government to -- the -- PP eight is state police unions you're sitting at this. Does support the law enforcement and all of the survivors and the national cops organizations speed of the people that got on board. -- you know what. If they didn't get on board where would I'd be."

" You forget a protest with me now we get our martyrs in asking her."

" But I -- you can't do it alone it was a team effort. And -- I'm so thankful and grateful to you. Everyone that's in the air which you at all my supporters that there -- law enforcement and Mike Stanley in my survivors because this isn't how are. Not eleven not eleven not over. They better realize that it's not over especially if you can bring people want -- about that is not over. We will unfortunately have another officer killed and you know what when we do. We'll be there."

" Well -- Monaco with much much gratitude and honor we honor the memory of his plane has been taught -- Just I think I'd use sir remark made up in by the the food that is our president is that together we can't. -- has meaning because together we can tell every one. That this is not acceptable we won't put up with it in as a result on the -- you -- back in we won. And we appreciate so much to taking the time to tell a story I know you and I will be talking again in the very new future. I'm 69 --"

" The government has been identified as major Malik -- doll a -- He is an army shrink of sorts he allegedly worked at Walter Reed medical center and he is. Not everything converts it is on his cousin told Fox News tonight that he is always and Muslim. It's unclear why he unleashed. Shuts a I'm relenting. Chaos of bullets today exploit -- unclear so there are a lot of unanswered questions we're hoping to get. -- Questions tonight at a press conference. Imagines troops are being prepared for deployment. In -- gunned down. Bracket wouldn't final medical and dental appointments. Gunned down. It's just it's it's it's a terrible tragedy and we are staying on top of it probably gonna continue the discussion. On whether and I. President Barack Obama's comments were grossly inappropriate. Because I would argue at their first thing to cross this man's lips should have been were any. Thing you want to -- control. An angry he's the president of the United States but want him to be shocked. Just twisted like the rest of us work. I was listening with -- to the patient Jay Severin was gonna go live to the president. In I was really hoping that he would take this opportunity to immediately day. Look -- in route to -- I probably wouldn't hear from him that it would be Robert Gibbs as Press Secretary saying the president is on his way. To Fort -- Just like colonel mark Delaney in the state police immediately dispatched himself to the scene of the shooting. Of the state trooper impressed with how anything did yeah. This is -- not not joked at a conference."

" Well let me first of all just saying again. And the entire Department of the Interior staff for organizing. Just an extraordinary conference. I want to thank my. Chairman and members and senior remote administration officials who participated today. I hear that is. Doctor Joe Madison probe was around and saw wanna give a shout out to back congressional medal of honor winner."

" Even in the half -- apply that people -- kind of -- That the first thing out of his mouth was not we have had an unimaginable. Tragedy at Fort Hood. American soldiers have been attacked on US soil. That's expecting to see don't expect to go yeah yeah. -- games and that's what he did awful. Awful but it's not surprising because it seems that he we we meaning in this country is to coddle terrorists and call them finding guys. And bring them to give talks at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst I know there are a lot of angry people. About the stock one of them is Steve Jones of New Jersey State Police. Welcome Dave Jones."

" You lot of friends or Massachusetts and getting text message to little or stay Heidi did Johns for us that we welcome you to the only thing keep calling."

" Well thank you again and before we started just let us in -- up prayers and condolences via. Soldiers the families of those soldiers suffered this terrible tragedy -- it truly is upset at that."

" It's a very sad day in and and I'm glad that we are having the appropriate response. To that horrific tragedy here in the studio with these great men and standing alongside me but Steve Jones I know that you. Have met many times that don't -- Monica Alan I know that used to took up this fight to stay way to get telling me. It -- officials in in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts thinks. It's a good idea to spend tax dollars bringing terrorists to get a little talk on social change at a public college."

" Absolutely deadly decision my first trip down so our highway. Thomas Manning -- or work was going to going to be displayed a college in southern Maine couple years ago. Until we had a rally the troops what we did here and I shut that down we had great success in the."

" Let me just to remind people -- where did Jones enters ST please meaning let the actual gunman he was Raymond. Serves. Right hand man in the gunman who shot dead films like Madonna's husband in 1981."

" Right Richard Williamson and Thomas Mattingly in the court that assassinated. Triple Monica and that was your friend -- open attempt crossed. And I was complimentary to a lot of troopers clicking on purpose such as myself and I'll never forget that night on the clip that you. Ought to. We we have this."

" College in southern New Hampshire that wanted to display his artwork."

" I don't wanna -- the wrong name I believe it was a it was a college that was affiliated with the state college system here."

" You know we're and expect Randy Jones -- think it was universities on the main. I think you're corporate and college that was gonna. Actually have a little art gallery show for this terrorist popular. And with us. To deal with the birthplace of America that I think there's very hard so that we wouldn't -- Terry."

" People who were left over from the sixties. Who called atlas V and drug use experimentation. Who who -- civil unrest. And criminality in the course. And then pretend. Pretend that these First Amendment or some other inalienable right gives them the ability to go well. And and engage in such a -- And eat it you academics in these colleges that are still burned -- I mean."

" The -- it's woman what you did John that you may have heard this before it let me play again. This is a former University of Massachusetts at Amherst professor name is -- and she bodies. Had advocated in one in a town meeting vote taken last night at one time bay detainees that they call Michael and terrorists to wanted to day. This is because the -- And."

" They sound like two very -- guys they would add to our community. -- to invite into New England here not at all concerned that if these two men were some data come that you're not concerned about that are now I would get ready to have them come here I would be. Absolutely thrilled them come here. Is so is that we are talking about about the academic infidels."

" and that's the tip of the iceberg I mean these people hyped or stupidity. And there and there are. Courses. Behind the degree they suggest that there's some sort of academic curiosity that needs to be satisfied. By engaging you know he's kind of talks to these kind of reviews I've -- the pilot -- a -- New Jersey State Police -- the first police department. Across the river despite the obviously the port authority and in new York city police department I was on the joint terrorist guest list for nine months. These people hate us. For the very freedoms that these stupid academics. Abuse. It because they have the right to be warm but these people wanna take away or are American quality of licensed pilot light. And these people who were supposed to have some level of aptitude simply don't get it. They don't understand how they're being pointed this whole game and it's that the extensive line. Sometimes troopers sometimes soldiers always Americans. And these people pretend that they have some higher level of of -- understanding as to how this thing works. And this is what I said to a reporter in New York in the first began -- like. Mobil's when he would peel -- the human beings -- when she used the same exact excuse. That all of these tested all these abuses and all these horrors perpetrated upon human beings were all in the name of science of research. Some sort of academic curiosity."

" The change. And eaten up there as heroes. -- town's New Jersey State Police we appreciate your constant. Constant vigilance in half by. Against. I mean this mean treatment a police officers in this country in the military and thank you so much for joining us tonight and believe me we put an end to this terrorist it the issue is. Rises up again and sure that this Tina people all once again and join you by."

" Well thank you direct connect it's some -- is the first that I cold. What we began this thing about two weeks ago."

" Go to. I know I and a it when he found yeah when you ask that question about why is -- Monaco going to have to do. Come here and world withdrew with armed police officers. He did no idea until they Harold call today until 969 Boston -- out today that it was expected talks scheduled. For it."

" At that."

" But it's it's here that there were conversations that went back and forth including some people that are in that room. And indicated that it was the governor's office position that this was a Department of Education. A decision."

" And I actually have a letter from mr. Cox who heads the library that was going to sponsor this. And he says while he doesn't condone it it's very necessary for us to bring these people and understand the mind of a terrorist."

" It's exactly the opposite is the recruiting effort from what what just sixty radical -- focus."

" What you're talking about here is in any sort of academic pursuit but rather an opportunity. To have this guy out the front of impressionable young minds. And even this one out of 100 or converted we'll put what they just didn't Fort Hood. It doesn't take a lot when you reportedly bomber such as supple courthouse that that that 23 people were injured in people's limbs were literally blown off."

" Albert and -- and Boston folks with Dean Jones --"

" It's a man does it take to plant the bomb and run away. That's not a man that but I outward and that sort these terrorist --"

" Dave Jones you rock we thank thank you David."

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" In the studio with me is Rick Brown he is the president of the union that represents Massachusetts state police troopers in we have timing neat. I felt the president the Boston Police -- association the national association of police officers. It -- mission and really I I was very moved by the remarks made by. Who of course is the president of the union represents new Jersey state troopers and why is New Jersey -- all this well in 1981. A new Jersey state trooper named bill Monica was shot dead. By members of a terrorist organization called the united freedom front sound familiar. It happened very close to home handling the terrorist organization. Was called the Weather Underground and they killed a Boston cop named Walter Schroeder right here Brighton in 1970. And of course ball to short his brother. Would be and murdered in an unrelated act of violence -- later and that's why the Boston Police headquarters building is named one Schroeder plaza. Because of the sacrifice made by those two Brothers who died. And sacrifice to this city. So here we have -- Monaco. Shot dead in 1981 a year later. Brown we'll tell us that to Massachusetts state troopers were almost assassinated. By the same organization. So -- Our audience a little bit about the united freedom front and within nationalist."

" The misusing anarchy that's the bottom line. The hurt hurt people hurt civilians. -- Suffolk County court I mean believe it when he people."

" 23 people injured in the --"

" Lean limbs exactly and then they went on to fund their organization. By grant Robin banks and -- cast. And it was just a crime group that's all what was and they tried to justified -- two criminals that came out of Walpole prison. And started this organization. You know -- to serve for a just someone drugs in meaning for -- from robbery."

" lights and guided it be an Argus and and they going to be celebrated by. Idiot like professor is love the turn the."

" Exactly and I mean yet made that statement that you play from that form a professor from UMass and Amherst that thinks this is going to be enjoyable. To have these people living in your community. I mean this is exactly what -- said these are recruiting missions these people trying to -- back up again and if they can get into the -- as I spent 21520 years. Coach of high school athletes and college at least these kids are impressionable. -- for fifteen years old 2.2 years old when they see someone like this and they see you know what. This guy makes sense this guy makes sense in the NL."

" There's a backing up the statement I mean this is did you math professor."

" They don't let Larry respond it's they would add to our community."

" She's talking about two college students who play rugby she's talking about two terrorists who -- release from Guantanamo I mean it absolutely mind boggling to most normal people. That you would call terrorists -- guys."

" Well and no no doubt about it I -- and and and I don't care that you master it's any institution to have these people that are criminals. That I murderers to come in and speak to last stones. The chip paint -- go to these universities to be educated is it's beyond me that they would bring this type of person in there and even."

" Kids can you imagine if you were working hard pulling all the time. Was about to deliver a speech there."

" Well I mean I mean night and I know my kids would ago obviously I mean my kids are old news -- this article published when he and 24 axle. As far as as far as them you know they grew up and -- force meant an environment myself my brother. Just retired from the Hampshire it was a -- every New Hampshire police office points ideas. So they know what it's all about and they know we do and in on how -- we worked in the it would be. Insulted to go near and have someone come in that was. It in an organization it was via a -- about state trooper tried to murder two other state troopers and after the work. With -- father I know they would not be in. English only. Like six to send."